Wed, 31 May 2023
Phil’s file of Christian Nationalism stories has gotten full, so we’re covering a number of them this week. We explore the beliefs of early Christian Nationalists from the 1920s, how modern Christian Nationalism can’t shake its racist roots, and why it’s gaining popularity with some followers of Reformed theology. Skye explains what Christian Nationalism shares in common with the Prosperity Gospel, and Kaitlyn dismantles Christian Nationalists who say their views are rooted in God’s design in nature. Then, we share one of our most popular Holy Post bonus features with everyone where Christian Taylor asks Skye about what the Bible really says, and does not say, about hell. Plus, another Christian college professor got Tisby’d.
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0:00 - Intro
1:31 - Show Starts
4:14 - Theme Song
4:36 - Julie Moore fired by Taylor University
17:59 - Christian Nationalism’s Racist Roots
27:16 - New Review of Stephen Wolfe’s book on Christian Nationalism
36:20 - A review of Mere Christiandom
45:11 - Christian Nationalism Fascism
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58:54 - Christian Asks Intro
59:53 - What is Hell?
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1:17:08 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Taylor professor Julie Moore cited Jemar Tisby on her syllabus. Then she lost her job.
Old-school Christian nationalism’s avatar of racism, antisemitism and conspiracies
Beware the 'Christian Prince' https://reason.com/2023/05/13/beware-the-christian-prince/
A Review of Mere Christendom by Doug Wilson https://g3min.org/a-review-of-mere-christendom-by-doug-wilson/
Christian Nationalism Talks Religion, But Walks Fascism https://religioninpublic.blog/2020/02/05/christian-nationalism-talks-religion-but-walks-fascism/
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Fri, 26 May 2023
David French has just returned from Ukraine where he saw the devastating impact of the Russian invasion. He talks to Skye about the resilience of the Ukrainian people, the need for more American support, and how a Trump victory in 2024 is part of Putin’s war plan. Then, the Supreme Court appears likely to rule against colleges and universities that consider race in the admission process. What are the arguments for and against Affirmative Action, and how will the court’s decision reverberate beyond higher education?
0:00 - Theme Song
0:17 - Why there is not more U.S. support of Ukraine
20:35 - David’s experience in Kyiv
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36:22 - Harvard Affirmative Action Case in the Supreme Court
45:45 - Previous Affirmative Action cases
58:49 - End Credits
Links mentioned in interview
Why Ukraine Needs Those F-16s https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/opinion/21french-ukraine-f16-fighters.html
I Just Arrived in Kyiv. The Ukrainian Valor Is Breathtaking. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/opinion/ukraine-kyiv-missile-patriot.html
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Wed, 24 May 2023
Influential pastor, author, and apologist, Tim Keller, passed away last week. We reflect on Keller’s ministry and wonder who is filling the shoes of the Christian giants we’ve lost. A new book about poverty says that the U.S. spends more on welfare than any other country except France, but the majority goes to help the wealthy and middle-class rather than the poor. Why aren’t we doing more to end poverty, and is our view of the Bible to blame? Then, it’s been 25 years since Rich Mullins died. Skye talks to Mullins’ friend James Bryan Smith about the songwriter’s inspiring life and legacy. Plus, Matthew Soerens shares some good news from the Southern border.
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0:49 - Intro
3:08 - Show Starts
3:51 - Theme Song
4:12 - Remembering Tim Keller
25:51 - News of the Good
36:01- American Poverty
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1:05:17 - Interview Intro - James Bryan Smith
1:07:09 - How Rich and Bryan became friends
1:13:07 - Rich’s uniqueness and authenticity
1:25:53 - Rich’s reliance on God
1:35:20 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Tim Keller Practiced the Grace He Preached
Title 42 has ended. Here’s what it did, and how US immigration policy is changing
Support World Relief
How America Manufactures Poverty https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/03/20/matthew-desmond-poverty-by-america-book-review
Other resources:
Rich Mullins (25th Anniversary Edition): An Arrow Pointing to Heaven by James Bryan Smith
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Wed, 17 May 2023
Ethicist, David Gushee, says we are seeing the emergence of a new kind of loveless Christianity. But those who practice it say their anger, culture warring, and pursuit of power are actually how they’re loving their neighbors. Then, Skye talks to actor Rainn Wilson, best known as Dwight Schrute from “The Office,” about religious pluralism, spiritual narcissism, why Hollywood misrepresents Christians, and how he became a follower of the Baha’i faith. Wilson’s new book is “Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution.” Also this week—A.I. has rewritten Genesis to be vegan-friendly, and does God really hate yoga pants?
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0.00 - Intro
2:33 - Theme Song
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4:03 - A Vegan Bible
15:23 - Yoga Pants & Christian Modesty
25:37 - Christianity without Love
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43:14 - Interview Intro
48:26 - Rainn’s journey to becoming Baha’i
53:30 - Why people are shifting away from religion
1:02:43 - Avoiding “self-help” spirituality
1:08:35 - How can people of different faiths work together
1:22:55 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
PETA Rewrites the Bible With ChatGPT: ‘A Loving God Would Never Endorse Exploitation’ https://vegnews.com/vegan-health-wellness/activism/peta-bible-chatgpt-god-vegan
‘Women’s leggings are too revealing’: Men of the Christian right deem yoga pants too scandalous to wear outside https://www.dailydot.com/debug/yoga-pants-twitter-debate-womens-clothing-mom-misogyny/
Christianity without love https://baptistnews.com/article/christianity-without-love/ Other resources: Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution by Rainn Wilson
The Divine Commodity: Discovering a Faith Beyond Consumer Christianity by Skye Jethani
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Wed, 10 May 2023
How did a theological system that rejected Christian participation in politics eventually give birth to the Religious Right? Phil talks to historian Daniel Hummel about the spread of rapture theology in the 20th century, why it spawned so many conspiracies, the legacy of the Left Behind books, and why rapture theology remains so popular despite being rejected by nearly every evangelical seminary. Also this week, why did controversial author, Joshua Butler, resign from his church? The embrace of Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump by the Religious Right is proof that the movement is now entirely post-Christian. And reflections on the coronation of King Charles III.
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0.50 - Intro
3:15 - Theme Song
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4:44 - Coronation of King Charles III
14:24 - News of the Good
17:42 - Resignation of Josh Butler
22:26 - The Post Christian Right
31:29 - The End of the Values Voter Wing of the GOP
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51:25 - Interview Intro Daniel Hummel - https://www.danielghummel.com/
54:03 - The Scofield Bible and Fundamentalism Christianity
1:04:19 - Late Great Planet Earth
1:11:45 - Tim LaHaye and the Left Behind Series
1:20:39 - The Academic Decline of Premillennialism Dispensationalism
1:30:59 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Josh Butler Resigns as Pastor Following TGC Article Backlash
More about World Relief
Tucker Carlson’s Dark and Malign Influence Over the Christian Right https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/07/opinion/tucker-carlson-christian-right.html
Trump killed the ‘values voter’ wing of the GOP. It isn’t coming back in 2024 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/21/trump-values-voter-wing-gop-00093175
Other resources: The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel Hummel
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Wed, 3 May 2023
Many Christians in America simply assume that Jesus could return at any moment, that believers will be raptured in the twinkling of an eye, that the state of Israel has a special role in the End Times, and that the church should just save souls and stay out of politics. In Part 1 of an interview about this new book, historian Daniel G. Hummel explains to Phil how this rapture theology isn’t rooted in church history, but was invented by a British layman less than 200 years ago. And why it was embraced by American pastors during the Civil War who wanted to avoid talking about slavery, race, and reconstruction. Also this week—paganism is on the rise. Who is really killing public schools? And women will win the battle of the sexes in 4.6 million years.
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Defined Terms to Know for This Week’s Interview
Millennium - The thousand year reign of Christ described in Revelation 20:1-8. There are basically three understandings of this:
Eschatology - The study of the end times - how history will end and Christ will come back to establish his eternal kingdom
Ecclesiology - the study of the church - its mission and structure as well as its place in God’s overall plan for the world
0:00 - Intro
3:11 - Theme Song
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4:41 - The end of men?
13:48 - Dawn of the new pagans
32:52 - Public vs Private vs Homeschool Debate
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55:46 - Interview Intro Daniel Hummel - https://www.danielghummel.com/
1:03:50 - Who is John Darby?
1:14:21- Dispensationalism advanced by the Civil War and Dwight Moody
1:35:21 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Scientists divided over what will happen to men as Y chromosome is disappearing https://www.unilad.com/news/is-the-y-chromosome-disappearing-077677-20230429
Dawn of the new pagans: ‘Everybody’s welcome – as long as you keep your clothes on!’
How school choice drives America’s people of faith apart https://religionnews.com/2023/04/19/how-school-choice-drives-americas-people-of-faith-apart/
Other resources: The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel Hummel
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Fri, 28 April 2023
From Harvard Law School to The New York Times, David French has repeatedly found himself in communities where secular progressivism is the majority view, and where his Christian beliefs face suspicion, ridicule, or even hostility. Skye Jethani asks French how he's learned to not just survive in these post-Christian enclaves, but actually thrive. What mistakes did he make? How did he successfully build relationships across political and philosophical barriers? And how did closer connections with those he disagreed with strengthen his faith? French also explains why Christians who sow fear and anger toward the culture will reap fear and anger from the culture. He's made that error and says joy and curiosity are what Christian leaders need to display in the public square instead.
0:00 - Intro
1:29 - David’s childhood in rural Kentucky
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8:37 - David’s time at Harvard
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25:38 - How Christians should tolerate beliefs they disagree with
34:48 - David’s regret about being too combative
49:26 -The Power of Joy
58:49 - End Credits
Links mentioned in interview
Holy Post episode 412 - This is Your Brain on God with Jim Wilder https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-403-this-is-your-brain-on-god-with-dr-jim-wilder
Other resources: David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench
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Wed, 26 April 2023
After admitting it broadcast election lies and conspiracies, and paying $787 million in damages, Fox News has fired its most popular host. Does this signal a change at the cable news network? An online chatbot says Christianity gives it hope. Are we witnessing the first A.I. convert? Then, more innocent people are being shot by fearful gun owners who “feel threatened.” Is this the inevitable outcome of America’s addiction to fear and idolatry of guns? And Derwin Gray is back to ask a question he’s been sitting on for 20 years—why isn’t the Civil Rights Movement considered a Christian revival? He talks to Skye about the history of revivals in America, and how economic and political idols have prevented us from truly embracing the messianic mandate of Jesus. Plus, a Florida shark got hammered on spring break.
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0:00 - Intro
3:25 - Theme Song
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4:55 - Tucker Carlson Fired from Fox News
15:31 - Florida Man Beats Shark with Hammer
19:20 - Google AI becomes a Christian?
24:06 - Recent “Wrong Place, Wrong time” Shootings
36:50 - Feelings and Institutions
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50:16 - Interview Intro Derwin Gray - https://www.derwinlgray.com/
53:11 - Why the Civil Rights Movement should be considered a revival
1:03:14 - Were the great American revivals of the past actually revivals?
1:11:55 - Problems of seeing faith as only individualistic
1:24:12 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Florida man accused of beating a shark with a hammer arrested
Experimental Google AI 'Bard' talks faith in the first person, says 'Christianity gives me hope' https://www.christianpost.com/news/experimental-google-ai-bard-talks-faith-in-the-first-person.html
Common mistakes, uncommon reactions in 4 separate shootings https://apnews.com/article/wrong-place-shootings-3c6e5061adb30d889ac3d071893ef129
Other resources:
Why Isn’t the Civil Rights Movement Considered a Revival Movement?
How to Heal Our Racial Divide by Derwin Gray
Missional and Multiethnic: Are You Ready for the Future of the Church?
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Wed, 19 April 2023
From the Jesus Movement in the 1970s, through the Religious Right in the 1980s, the rise of New Calvinism in the 1990s, and the MAGA movement today, as a Christian kid in the suburbs and then a political journalist in Washington, Jon Ward has had a front seat to the most significant characters and events in American evangelicalism. He talks with Skye about his new autobiography, “Testimony,” and why he is still committed to Christian faith despite the failure of the movement that raised him. Also this week, early data shows a reduction in the number of abortions since the Supreme Court overturned Roe, but it’s less than many predicted. The so-called “independent prophets'' are predicting God will kill Donald Trump’s opponents next month. Why are they still supporting him when there are alternatives? And a report finds advocates of Christian Nationalism are more rooted in cultural heritage than Christian theology. Is anyone surprised?
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0:00 - Intro
3:26 - Theme Song
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4:56 - Show continues
5:35 - MAGA prophet says anti-Trumpers will experience sudden deaths in May
13:48 - Abortion rates since Dobbs decision
29:52 - Why some Christians feel the need to pass God’s law as the nation’s law
43:22 - How Christian is Christian Nationalism
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59:23 - Interview Intro Jon Ward - https://www.jonwardwrites.org/
1:02:14 - Jon’s upbringing from the Jesus Movement to New Calvinism
1:07:22 - Gnosticism’s influence on Evangelicalism
1:18:54 - Journalism during the Trump era
1:30:46 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
MAGA prophet Lance Wallnau says that anti-Trumpers in both political parties will start dying “sudden deaths” next month
Legal Abortions in US Down 5,000 Per Month Since the End of Roe
How Christian Is Christian Nationalism? https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/03/how-christian-is-christian-nationalism
Other resources:
Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation by Jon Ward
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Wed, 12 April 2023
Protests have continued after last month’s school shooting in Nashville, including in the Tennessee state legislature where the majority Republicans expelled two Democrats after their protests broke the rules of decorum. What was really accomplished by this extreme response, and what’s really behind the rise of retaliation politics? Then, Skye talks to Alan Noble about his new book, “On Getting Out of Bed: The Burden and Gift of Living.” Noble says we’ve believed the lies that life is supposed to be pleasurable, that suffering is abnormal, and that our feelings are a reflection of reality. Instead, at a time when depression, anxiety, and loneliness are skyrocketing, he shows how our faith equips us to suffer well. Plus, scientists have grown mammoth meatballs. Yummy!
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0:00 - Intro
4:15 - Theme Song
4:37 - Woolly Mammoth Meatball
11:27 - Tennessee GOP expels 2 Democrats from state legislature
20:45 - The merging of Christianity with populist right wing politics
31:41 - The rise of retaliation in politics
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51:45 - Interview Intro Alan Noble - https://www.oalannoble.com/
56:15 - Normalizing suffering
1:05:07 - The importance of finding community
1:16:11 - Talking about mental health with nonbelievers
1:26:04 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Meatballs made with mammoth DNA created by Australian food startup https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/28/world/mammoth-meatballs-cultured-meat-climate-scn/index.html
How Tennessee GOP expelling 2 Democrats could have ripple effect in other states https://www.axios.com/2023/04/07/tennessee-house-lawmakers-expulsion-democrats
Three and Out - Thoughts on Tennessee https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/boilingfrogs/three-and-out/
'It's worth it': Charlie Kirk calls school shootings 'a prudent deal' to protect the Second Amendment
Other resources:
On Getting Out of Bed: The Burden and Gift of Living by Alan Noble
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Wed, 5 April 2023
Description: Immediately after last week’s school shooting in Nashville, opportunists used it to advance their favorite culture war narratives. Why does this happen after every tragedy, and why are we more likely to empathize with victims we identify closely with? Then, what impact will Donald Trump’s indictment have on the 2024 presidential race? Are his evangelical supporters finally ready to move on? And, can preaching really undo the damage and division caused by cable news and social media? Kaitlyn Schiess interviews the authors of “Preaching to a Divided Nation: A Seven-Step Model for Promoting Reconciliation and Unity.” Plus, Levi’s goes AI and Christian is having none of it.
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0:00 - Intro 4:09 - Theme Song 4:30 - Skye tries pickleball 7:17 - Levi’s using AI models 13:23 - Nashville school shooting 19:43 - Avoiding culture war narratives after national tragedies 32:14 - What’s to be learned from tragedies like this 45:51 - Trump’s Indictment
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53:16 - Guest Interview - Matthew Kim and Paul Hoffman 59:19 - Does preaching still have an impact on people? 1:11:10 - How to deal with difficult topics through centered and bounded sets 1:16:22 -How to discern when is the right time to bring up a controversial topic
1:27:49 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Levi’s will test AI-generated clothing models to ‘increase diversity’ https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/27/23658385/levis-ai-generated-clothing-model-diversity-denim
Why Phil usually waits to comment on national tragedies https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1641852609391624208
Other resources:
Preaching to a Divided Nation: A Seven-Step Model for Promoting Reconciliation and Unity by Matthew Kim and Paul Hoffman
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Fri, 31 March 2023
It’s becoming increasingly clear that parental rights is poised to be a significant issue in the 2024 election, particularly as it relates to transgenderism and gender-affirming healthcare. Skye Jethani talks to David French about his recent editorial that provoked a backlash from both ends of the political spectrum. French explains why recent efforts in California and Texas, which take opposite positions on youth transgenderism, both violate the long-affirmed rights of parents to make healthcare decisions for their own children without government interference. Is it another case of both the Right and Left embracing illiberal and unconstitutional tactics to fight the Culture War? Or, does the rise of transgenderism among kids demand the government’s intervention regardless of what parents want?
0:00 - Theme Song 5:22 - Don’t Let the Culture War Degrade the Constitution 11:00 - Parental Rights in California 21:47 - Parental Rights in Texas 33:52 - Kaylee McGhee White’s Critique 46:52 - Navigating the polarization of our communities 1:01:40 - End Credits
Links mentioned in interview
Don’t Let the Culture War Degrade the Constitution https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/12/opinion/newsom-desantis-walgreens-constitution.html
Yes, the state has both the right and the responsibility to restrict gender ideology
Other resources: David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench
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Wed, 29 March 2023
Description: Rick Warren, the founder and former pastor of Saddleback Church, is speaking out after his church was ejected from the Southern Baptist Convention for ordaining women. Phil explains how the SBC went from being accepting of female leaders, to opposing them, to kicking out churches that depart even slightly on the issue. Then, Kaitlyn talks with Dr. Beth Felker Jones and Dr. Amy Peeler about Joshua Butler’s controversial article comparing the gospel to marital sex. They explain what his article gets fundamentally wrong about the New Testament’s marriage metaphor. Plus, a new study finds evangelicals are the least liked religious group in America, except by evangelicals who think they’re great. And someone is anonymously leaving their mark on Broadway.
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0:00 - Intro 2:45 - Theme Song 3:55 - News of the Butt 9:03 - Evangelicals loved by Evangelicals, but not anyone else 14:14 - SBC history around women ordination 26:49 - Denny Burke’s response to Rick Warren 46:14 - Guest Interview - Beth Felker Jones & Amy Peeler 53:47 - Can marriage and sex point us to God? 59:29 - Interpreting the marriage metaphor in Ephesians 5 1::03:11 - Flaws of the giver, receiver framework 1:18:59 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Fan poops in aisle near Hillary and Chelsea Clinton at Broadway show https://pagesix.com/2023/03/20/fan-poops-in-aisle-near-hillary-and-chelsea-clinton-at-show/
Evangelicals Are the Most Beloved US Faith Group Among Evangelicals
The Southern Baptist Convention’s coming ‘Great Ejection’ https://religionnews.com/2023/03/22/the-southern-baptist-conventions-coming-great-ejection/
Other resources:
The Bible’s Marriage Metaphor Doesn’t Belong In the Bedroom by Amy Peeler
Protestant bodies, Protestant bedrooms, & our furious need for a theology thereof by Beth Felker Jones https://bethfelkerjones.substack.com/p/protestant-bodies-protestant-bedrooms
Faithful: A Theology of Sex by Beth Felker Jones
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Wed, 22 March 2023
557: The Rise of Christian Nashville-ism & What Christians Must Do with Claude Alexander
Why doesn’t Congress work? A recent article explains how diversity, education, and geography are driving the political parties apart. These findings also help explain the widening fractures among evangelicals. In the past, evangelicalism was primarily driven by academic institutions in the North, but now it’s increasingly fueled by entertainment interests in the South. Phil explains this rise of “Christian Nashville-ism.” Then, Skye talks to Bishop Claude Alexander about his book “Necessary Christianity,” and what he believes to be the most urgent issues facing the church today. Plus, more listener feedback about teen mental health research, how puppies, infants, and Baby Yoda hack our brains, and an unexpected animal attack in Ohio.
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0:00 - Intro 3:15 - Theme Song 3:37 - Zebra Attack! 10:38 - Cute Babies 22:45 - Feedback from our Mental Health Discussion 30:56 - The Four Quadrants of American Politics 40:13 - Fragmentation of Evangelical Politics 49:16 - Rise of Christian Nashville-ism
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59:07 - Guest Interview - Claude Alexander https://bishopclaudealexander.org
1:03:41 - Determining one’s calling 1:10:08 - What must the American church do today 1:18:58 - What can the white evangelical church learn from the black church
1:31:42 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Ohio man nearly loses arm in zebra attack at farm https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-zebra-attack-farm-rcna74911
Why your brain thinks this puppy is undoubtedly cuter than a baby https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/neuroscience-of-cute/
Feedback from episode 556’s discussion on mental health https://www.holypost.com/post/556-teen-mental-health-revisited-digital-discipleship-with-nona-jones
The Four Quadrants of American Politics
The fragmentation of evangelical politics https://currentpub.com/2023/03/16/the-fragmentation-of-evangelical-politics/
Other resources: Necessary Christianity: What Jesus Shows We Must Be and Do by Claude Alexander
Becoming the Church: God's People in Purpose and Power by Claude Alexander -
Required: God's Call to Justice, Mercy, and Humility to Overcome Racial Division by Claude Alexander - https://amzn.to/3LFJRyk
The Politics of the Cross: A Christian Alternative to Partisanship by Daniel Williams -
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Wed, 15 March 2023
Feedback on the recent episode about the teen mental health report by the CDC was so strong that the Holy Post gang revisits the topic. Jonathan Haidt says three untruths that fuel depression were embraced by progressives ten years ago, but now they’re commonplace among conservatives too. Then, in 1976, Jimmy Carter represented a biblically-rooted evangelicalism that was also politically progressive. So, why did white evangelicals abandon him—or did they? And former Facebook executive, Nona Jones, explains why social media companies say their mission is to create community but their business models do the opposite. Jones still believes there is hope for these platforms and is now working with YouVersion to build digital disciples. Plus, respected historian, Dave, believes there’s a buried treasure under Kate’s house.
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0:00 - Intro 2:39 - Theme Song 3:00 - The Holy Grail and Ark of the Covenant thought to be found in England 12:16 - Teenage Mental Health 38:10 - Jimmy Carter and Evangelicals 48:50 - Ryan Burge on race and religion in American politics
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55:34 - Guest Interview - Nona Jones
58:39 - Nona’s time at Facebook
1:05:55 - The potential and the limits of technology in the Church
1:16:57 - How to use social media for the well-being of people
1:29:57 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Holy Grail and Ark of Covenant thought to be located under an English house -
Why the Mental Health of Liberal Girls Sank First and Fastest - https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/mental-health-liberal-girls
Jimmy Carter embodies the ‘road not taken’ by many White evangelical Christians - https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/05/us/jimmy-carter-evangelicals-blake-cec/index.html
Ryan Burge - This is how much race matters more than religion in American politics https://twitter.com/ryanburge/status/1633863039291379712
Other resources: Killing Comparison: Reject the Lie You Aren't Good Enough and Live Confident in Who God Made You to Be by Nona Jones - https://amzn.to/3ZVZTru
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Wed, 8 March 2023
The Gospel Coalition published an article last week that brought together every divergent faction of the church to say, “Ick!” While many are discussing the troubling content of the article on social media, the Holy Post crew examines what is says about the troubling state of evangelical publishing. Then, new data finds liberal teens are struggling with depression at higher rates on average than conservative teens. What’s the explanation? And Phil talks to professor Christopher Watkin about his book, “Biblical Critical Theory: How the Bible's Unfolding Story Makes Sense of Modern Life and Culture.” Is critical theory really as evil as some culture warriors say it is? Watkin offers a more thoughtful and Christian perspective on how to critique society. Plus, Japan discovers 7,000 new islands.
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0:44 - Intro 3:46 - Islands found 9:40 - The Article 29:23 - Teen mental health and politics
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Interview with Christopher Watkin https://christopherwatkin.com/ https://twitter.com/DrChrisWatkin
53:13 - Social contract 56:20 - Christopher’s story 1:01:32 - Biblical Critical Theory Biblical Critical Theory: How the Bible's Unfolding Story Makes Sense of Modern Life and Culture - https://amzn.to/3YkH1kJ
1:04:28 - Defining critical theory 1:10:50 - Augustine 1:16:29 - Analyzing culture through the bible 1:21:50 - Eternal destiny and culture 1:24:28 - Diagonalizing 1:35:31 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment: Japan just found 7,000 islands it didn’t know it had - https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/02/asia/japan-islands-double-report-intl-hnk/index.html
Please understand that I was the first one who was upset by the bad article - https://mpierce.substack.com/p/please-understand-that-i-was-the
Esau McCaulley tweet link - https://twitter.com/esaumccaulley/status/1631380537892806669
Why are young liberals so depressed? - https://www.slowboring.com/p/why-are-young-liberals-so-depressed?utm_source=direct&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Other resources:
The Uneasy Conscience of Modern Fundamentalism by Carl Henry - https://amzn.to/3IRhhH8
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Wed, 1 March 2023
A new report from the CDC finds a record number of teenage girls are now debilitated by mental illnesses including depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation. And social psychologist Jonathan Haidt says the evidence is abundant that social media is the cause, but the tech industry is resisting any changes. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Skye discuss the social, political, and spiritual dimensions of the crisis. They also revisit the Asbury revival and how previous revivals in America produced both good and bad fruit. New Testament professor, Scot McKnight, talks about his latest book, “Revelation for the Rest of Us.” He argues that a literal reading of the book isn’t just wrong but dangerous. Rather than speculating about timelines and events, McKnight says the book is intended to teach Christians in every age how to be discerning, dissident disciples within Babylon. Plus, unstoppable Canadian super pigs are coming!
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News Segment
0:00 - Intro 2:44 - Animal News 9:35 - Asbury Revival 26:22 - Mental health and social media 36:47 - Collective action 43:47 - Listening to teenagers
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57:23 - Interview Intro 59:29 - Scot McKnight https://twitter.com/scotmcknight
1:01: 12 - Speculation approach 1:06:55 - Dispensationalism 1:12:16 - Silence on Revelation 1:18:04 Revelation for the rest of us 1:22:14 - America and Babylon 1:32:37 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment
Hybrid Super Pigs From Canada Are Invading Northern US; Why Are They a Problem? - https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/42527/20230222/hybrid-super-pigs-canada-invading-northern-why-problem.htm
‘Woodstock’ for Christians: Revival Draws Thousands to Kentucky Town - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/23/us/kentucky-revival-asbury-university.html
Social Media is a Major Cause of the Mental Illness Epidemic in Teen Girls. Here’s the Evidence.- https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/social-media-mental-illness-epidemic
The crisis in American girlhood - https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/02/17/teen-girls-mental-health-crisis/
Other resources:
Revelation for the Rest of Us: A Prophetic Call to Follow Jesus as a Dissident Disciple by Scot McKnight - https://amzn.to/3ZpUpoW
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Fri, 24 February 2023
There's no denying that American men are struggling. Depression, drug use, and suicide are on the rise, and there are plenty of voices on the far right eager to blame feminists, the LGBT movement, #MeToo, and the left in general. They say our culture has made traditionally masculine traits "toxic" and stolen from men the one thing they need most—respect. David French explains to Skye Jethani why this diagnosis is wrong. He argues that the real crisis isn't that men lack respect, but that they lack "virtuous purpose." Plus, French and Jethani revisit the war in Ukraine one year after the Russian invasion. While the Biden Administration's support for Ukraine has gotten stronger, overall American support has weakened. What does that mean, and how will this conflict eventually end?
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1:04 - Theme Song
3:00 - Men need purpose more than respect https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/opinion/men-purpose-respect.html
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29:47 - The crisis of masculinity
34:20 - Christianity and consumerism
43:00 The War in Ukraine
1:02:22 Next Presidential election
1:08:20 - End Credits
Links mentioned in interview
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/12/opinion/men-purpose-respect.html
Other resources: David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench
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Wed, 22 February 2023
She’s finally here! Bible teacher and author Beth Moore joins Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss her new memoir, her calling, and how she found the courage to speak out against the political idolatry of evangelical leaders in 2016. Moore says she learned how to put her faith in Christ himself rather than in Christian people. Also this week, we discuss the revival at Asbury University that’s attracted 20,000 people to a small town in Kentucky—including a lot of Christian celebrities. Is it a genuine movement of God’s Spirit, or a product of social media spin? Could it be both? Plus, a Christian professor discovers why “Florida is where woke goes to die,” evangelicals rejected Jimmy Carter for being too nice, and the Grinch who stole Easter.
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News Segment
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0:45 Intro
3:35 - Stolen eggs
8:35 - Professor in trouble
25:47 - Asbury revival
38:51 - Jimmy Carter in hospice
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51:50 - Interview Intro
53:15 - Beth Moore https://twitter.com/BethMooreLPM All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore - https://amzn.to/3lWYLFy
59:41 - Calling
1:08:30 - Risking credibility
1:15:00 - Back to 2016
1:25:19- End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment: Thief Steals Nearly 200,000 Cadbury Creme Eggs in Britain - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/15/world/europe/cadbury-creme-eggs-theft.html
English professor in Florida says university is reviewing his employment following complaint over racial justice unit - https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/18/us/palm-beach-atlantic-university-professor-racial-justice-unit/index.html
Asbury Professor: We’re Witnessing a ‘Surprising Work of God’ - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2023/february-web-only/asbury-revival-1970-2023-methodist-christian-holy-spirit.html
Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3SmhZQQ
The Movie Proposal - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-movie-proposal/id1184573662
Other resources:
All My Knotted-Up Life: A Memoir by Beth Moore - https://amzn.to/3lWYLFy
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Wed, 15 February 2023
A Christian campaign spent $20 million on two ads during the Super Bowl, but the “He Gets Us” commercials are facing criticism from both the right and left. One side says the ads did not present the gospel. The other says the campaign’s funders are bigots. And everyone is wondering if the $20 million could have been spent more effectively. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn offer their takes. Then, Tim Keller has a new article with his prescription for how Christianity can thrive again in America, but does it all come down to overcoming political idolatry? And a new report from PRRI looks at the sobering data about Christian Nationalism. One-third of Americans are either committed Christian Nationalists or very sympathetic to it, and the majority of them are white evangelicals. Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss the data and explain the link between Christian Nationalism, patriarchy, and authoritarianism. Plus, a candy factory is sued after workers fall into a chocolate vat.
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0:00 - Intro
3:55 - Workers in a vat of chocolate 6:30 - He gets us
28:46 - American Christianity
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57:37 - Interview Intro
59:00 - Kristin Kobes Du Mez
1:11:48 - Christian Nationalism and patriarchy
1:29:15 - Demographics
1:32:36 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment
Mars Wrigley fined after two workers fell into a tank of chocolate - https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/business/mars-wrigley-chocolate-vat-fine/index.html
He Gets Us - https://hegetsus.com
American Christianity is due for a revival by Timothy Keller - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/christianity-secularization-america-renewal-modernity/672948/
Links Mentioned in Interview Segment Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3xlmodt
Jesus and John Wayne Holy Post Subseries - https://www.holypost.com/articles/categories/jesus-john-wayne
A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture - https://www.prri.org/research/a-christian-nation-understanding-the-threat-of-christian-nationalism-to-american-democracy-and-culture/
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Fri, 10 February 2023
What does it mean to be pro-life? Drawing from the words of Jesus, the Apostles, and the early church, Shane Claiborne says most American Christians have gotten it wrong. His new book, “Rethinking Life: Embracing the Sacredness of Every Person,” argues for the value of the unborn, but also for combating poverty, racism, and other dehumanizing evils. He talks with Skye about how the early church’s consistent ethic of life changed once it gained political power. It’s one thing for a tiny church on the margins of society to apply the teachings of Jesus, but how do we apply his words when Christians have control of governments and armies? Skye is joined after the interview by Christian Taylor and Phil Vischer to debrief Claiborne’s challenging ideas.
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0:00 - Sponsor World Relief Join the Path - https://worldrelief.org/holypost/ 0:46- Intro
3:16 - Shane Claiborne
Tyre Nichols and policing http://www.shaneclaiborne.com/ https://twitter.com/ShaneClaiborne
13:55 Rethinking Life
28:24 Ethics and power
33:49 Abortion
48:30 Phil, Skye, Christian debrief
1:07:03 End Credits
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Rethinking Life: Embracing the Sacredness of Every Person by Shane Claiborne - https://amzn.to/40EvZZZ
The Irresistible Revolution, Updated and Expanded: Living as an Ordinary Radical by Shane Claiborne - https://amzn.to/3x3SDxt
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Wed, 8 February 2023
How did American politics go from a disagreement over policies to become a war between the forces of good and evil? Phil takes us on a journey through the fascinating origins of the New Apostolic Reformation movement as he traces a line from a professor at Fuller Seminary in the 1980s to the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Along the way, we learn how the movement popularized the integration of culture, politics, and spiritual warfare, and shaped the imaginations of generations of evangelicals. Plus, the Chinese spy balloon is a Rorschach test in the sky. And creepy things are happening to mice at a children’s hospital in Cincinnati.
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0:00 - Intro 2:32 - Chinese balloon 15:18 - Animal News 20:10 - Charismatic history 53:23 - National Prayer Breakfast 59:40 - End Credits
Links mentioned
“Three Chinese Balloons Flew Over US During Trump Presidency” - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-06/us-didn-t-know-about-chinese-balloons-during-trump-until-later
“Scientists Grew Mini Human Guts Inside Mice” - https://www.wired.com/story/scientists-grew-mini-human-guts-inside-mice/#:~:text=In%20search%20of%20a%20better,of%20the%20human%20immune%20system.
Skye’s devotional - https://www.withgoddaily.com/
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Fri, 3 February 2023
Phil catches up with friend-of-the-show Esau McCaulley (New Testament Professor, NYT columnist, author of CT Book of the Year Reading While Black) for a wide-ranging conversation. Why do we keep getting MLK wrong? What do Black voices give up in order to be invited into white spaces, and is there a better way? What does McCaulley do to refocus on Jesus? And why did he decide his new book should be about, of all things, Lent?? McCaulley is a deep thinker AND a little bit of a goofball. Which makes his conversations with Phil always worth your time.
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0:00 - Sponsor Join the World Relief giving community The Path worldrelief.org/holypost 0:46 - Intro 2:36 - Esau McCaulley interview 5:43 Martin Luther King Jr. 21:43 Systemic racism 28:01 Black voices in white spaces 41:50 Lent 45:58 End Credits
Links mentioned
The Kind of Revolution That Martin Luther King Jr. Envisioned by Esau McCaulley https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/opinion/martin-luther-king-woke-reparations.html
@esaumccaulley Esaumccaulley.com
Lent: The Season of Repentance and Renewal (Fullness of Time, 1) by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3WXNodo
Reading While Black by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3Rzw1ys
Josey Johnson's Hair and the Holy Spirit by Esau McCaulley https://amzn.to/3HUgndE
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Wed, 1 February 2023
In a video clip from a sermon, influential megachurch pastor Andy Stanley said gay men and women who remain in the church “have more faith than a lot of you.” The backlash has been swift, but are people misunderstanding his point? And why do some Christians think shifting views on sexuality and gender are the greatest threat to the church, while others believe it’s Christian Nationalism and politics? Who’s right? And what does our view say about us? And a new article explains the rise of Spirit Warriors—the independent Christian “prophets” on YouTube mixing politics and spiritual warfare. Where did they come from, and how much influence do they really have?
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News Segment 0:00 - Intro
3:46 - Tyre Nichols and tragedies
13:07 - Andy Stanley and threats to the American
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35:23 - The rise of spirit warriors
1:01:52 End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment: “Andy Stanley says gay churchgoers 'have more faith than a lot of you'” https://www.christianpost.com/news/andy-stanley-gay-churchgoers-have-more-faith-than-a-lot-of-you.html
“The Rise of Spirit Warriors on the Christian Right” https://newrepublic.com/article/170027/rise-spirit-warriors-christian-right-politics
Jason Rugg’s next venture Oneworldmovie.com
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Fri, 27 January 2023
David French shares about his move to The New York Times, and why MAGA Conservatives call him a “sell out” when journalism on the far right is where the big money is found. Then, Skye and David discuss the 303 Creative case at the Supreme Court. Is creating a website a service or is it speech? The answer will determine whether the government may compel some religious businesses to support same-sex weddings. And new research shows diversity training is largely ineffective. Why do we continue to believe pre-packaged programs—both inside and outside the church—are how to change beliefs and behaviors?
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1:09 - Intro
2:23 - David French to New York Times
16:33 - Diversity Training
41:08 - 303 Creative
1:03:24 - End Credits
David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench
Links mentioned in interview “David French Joins The Times as an Opinion Columnist” - https://www.nytco.com/press/david-french-joins-the-times-as-an-opinion-columnist/
“The Most Important Thing You Read Today” - https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/frenchpress/the-most-important-thing-you-read-today/
“The Art of Compulsion” - https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/the-art-of-compulsion/
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Wed, 25 January 2023
The Church of England has decided to not allow same-sex marriages, but it will bless civil same-sex unions. Is it a wise compromise or terrible attempt to dodge a divisive issue? Brazil’s president lost reelection and his conservative Christian supporters stormed the capital. Is the American church exporting its nuttiness? New research from Gallop reveals which professions are the most and least trusted. Where do pastors land on the list? Plus, A.I. is causing layoffs for tech workers, Trump is angry at evangelical leaders, and broken Japanese toilets.
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0:00 - Intro 2:56 - News of the Butt 6:42 - Artificial Intelligence 10:18 - Church of England marriage blessing
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28:59 - Capitol riots in Brazil 36:35 - Evangelical endorsements 42:29 - Ethics rankings 51:47 - End Credits
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“‘See-through toilets’ malfunction in Shibuya” - https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/society/general-news/20221217-77930/#:~:text=Tokyo's%20Shibuya%20Ward%20announced%20Friday,see%20inside%20while%20in%20use.
“A news site used AI to write articles. It was a journalistic disaster.” - https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/01/17/cnet-ai-articles-journalism-corrections/
“Alphabet cuts 12,000 jobs after pandemic hiring spree, refocuses on AI.” - https://www.reuters.com/business/google-parent-lay-off-12000-workers-memo-2023-01-20/
“Church of England: Gay couples can't marry but will receive 'God's blessing'” - https://www.christianpost.com/news/church-of-england-gay-couples-cant-marry-but-will-receive-gods-blessing.html
“Christians represented significant faction of capital rioters in Brazil” - https://religionnews.com/2023/01/17/christians-represented-significant-faction-of-capital-rioters-in-brazil/
“Trump chides onetime evangelical supporters who haven’t endorsed him” - https://religionnews.com/2023/01/17/trump-chides-onetime-evangelical-supporters-who-havent-endorsed-him/
“The New Ethics Rankings Are Out. Where Do Pastors Stand?” - https://churchanswers.com/blog/the-new-ethics-rankings-are-out-where-do-pastors-stand/
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Fri, 20 January 2023
What story are we in? A rescue plan to get us out of a dying world? God's mission to save us from sin? Is my true purpose in life to "go to heaven and take as many people with me as I can?" Is the Bible all about Jesus? Phil sits down with the ever-provocative New Testament Bible scholar Timothy Gombis to talk about the BIG story of the Bible and God's plan for us that's even bigger than "rescue from sin." After the interview, Skye and Christian join Phil to debrief and sing, in the words of a certain tomato, the "what have we learned?" song.
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0:00 - Intro 7:07 - Labels and Categories 17:05 - Purpose in life 29:11- Defining evangelism 37:19 - Summarizing the Gospel
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50:26 Phil, Skye, Christian debrief
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Wed, 18 January 2023
Martin Luther King Jr. is widely celebrated today, but that wasn’t the case when he was killed in 1968. Esau McCaulley’s editorial explains how King’s current popularity comes from the tendency to cherry pick a few MLK quotes about race, but conveniently overlook his more controversial sermons about poverty, justice, and reparations. What does it mean to take King’s words seriously today? Then, scientists have discovered the enormous psychological benefits of awe—the simultaneous feeling of overwhelming wonder and one’s own insignificance. But are they simply affirming what every religion has known forever, and why have evangelicals given up on awe-inspiring architecture? Plus, the remarkable longevity of a lost turtle.
Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks “How should we use the Lord’s Prayer?” https://www.patreon.com/posts/77369993/ Holy Post merch store - https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment 0:00 - Intro 3:33 - Animal News 11:14 - Martin Luther King, Jr. Discussion 18:33 - MLK continued; reparations
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38:03 - The value of AWE and WONDER
Links mentioned in news segment: “Missing Pet Tortoise Found In Attic 30 Years Later — Still Alive And Well” - https://www.thedodo.com/daily-dodo/missing-family-pet-tortoise-lost-for-30-years-found-in-attic-still-alive-and-well “The Kind of Revolution That Martin Luther King Jr. Envisioned” by Esau McCaulley (New York Times Opinion) - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/15/opinion/martin-luther-king-woke-reparations.html “How A Bit of Awe Can Improve Your Health” by Hope Reese (New York Times) - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/well/live/awe-wonder-dacher-keltner.html Other resources: The Divine Commodity by Skye Jethani - https://amzn.to/3XiaOLh Holy Post Race in America Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUwcs9qJXY The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee - https://amzn.to/3iPTvSK
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Wed, 11 January 2023
When Damar Hamlin collapsed during Monday Night Football we witnessed an outpouring of public prayer. We also saw a flood of vaccine conspiracy theories hit social media. Phil asks, why are conservative Christians so distrustful of experts and enamored with fringe conspiracies? Then, David French has joined The New York Times. Progressives are upset about his Christian views, and conservatives are accusing him of selling out for acceptance among liberal elites. This launches the hosts into a broader discussion about the difference between principled pluralism and cultural accommodation. And Christian theologians universally agree that the God revealed in the Bible is neither male nor female, but Jesus was a man and he taught us to pray to “Our Father.” How do we reconcile these facts? Kaitlyn Schiess interviews Dr. Amy Peeler about her new book, Women and the Gender of God. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:05 - Damar Hamlin and conspiracy theories 21:14 - Principled pluralism & cultural accommodation 46:22 - Sponsor: Faithful Counseling Get 10% off your first month at faithfulcounseling.com/ Interview with Amy Peeler "Women and the Gender of God" - https://amzn.to/3CDLzLo Amy Peeler - https://amypeeler.com 47:36 - Guest intro 49:08 - About Amy Peeler 52:27 - Gender and God 55:41 - Inclusion in Christ 1:01:18 - Feminist criticisms 1:08:52 - Fatherhood language 1:16:05 - Masculinity and God 1:20:28 - Roles of women 1:29:23 - Credits Links mentioned: “David French Joins The Times as an Opinion Columnist” - https://www.nytco.com/press/ “David French and the Future of Orthodox Protestantism” by Carl R. Trueman (First Things) - https://www.firstthings.com/ “Pluralism Isn’t Just for Political Losers” by John Inazu - https://johninazu.substack. Holy Post website: https://www.holypost. Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon. The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 4 January 2023
The pandemic was miserable for mothers, right? New research disputes that claim and shows moms were actually happier than childless women. But not ALL moms. What makes the difference? A survey shows both conservative and progressive Americans believe the absolute worst about each other. Is there any hope for healing the divide? What makes human leg muscles different from other primate species? Phil gets to the bottom of it. And Skye interviews Walter Kim, the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, about what’s broken in the evangelical movement in America and how to repair it. Plus, drunk Santas crash a tank and hormonal Rwandan elephants. News Segment
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Fri, 30 December 2022
Voices on the right, from Elon Musk to Fox News, are accusing social media companies of violating the First Amendment's protection of free speech. David French is back to talk with Skye Jethani about what speech the First Amendment does, and does not, protect. And he explains why the decision of a private citizen or company, like Twitter, to remove content or limit free speech is not unconstitutional. They also debate what responsibility social media companies do have for the speech they allow on their platforms, as well as court cases in Texas and Florida that could dramatically change how social media functions for all Americans. 0:00 - Intro "Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson Don't Understand the First Amendment" by David French (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/12/elon-musk-and-tucker-carlson-dont-understand-the-first-amendment/672352/ "The 'Twitter Files' Show It's Time to Reimagine Free Speech Online" by David French (The Dispatch) David French: https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench |
Wed, 28 December 2022
or our final episode of 2022, we are sharing with everyone two bonus features that are normally exclusively available to Holy Post supporters. First, you’ll hear an episode of “Christian Asks” where Skye explains what the Bible says, and does not say, about what happens to us after we die. Then, we’re sharing one of the most popular episodes of “Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess” about the doctrine of the harrowing of hell. After that, Kaitlyn interviews Michael Wear, the founder and president of The Center for Christianity and Public Life. 0:00 - Intro
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Wed, 21 December 2022
What were the most important stories of 2022? Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss the embrace of Christian Nationalism, political and cultural issues dividing evangelicalism, and how Twitter has deteriorated into a middle school lunchroom food fight. They also discuss their predictions for 2023 including the frightening rise of A.I., and how a bus could bring Americans together. The hosts are also interrupted by an unexpected guest who wants to set the record straight about the War on Christmas, and why Phil is on the “Naughty List.” Plus, everyone’s favorite Christmas songs, hymns, and movies, and cows flee a live Nativity. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks... What is the biblical definition of “heaven”? - https://www.patreon.com/posts/76174103
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Wed, 14 December 2022
A Texas megachurch is facing criticism after a viral TikTok video showed a rehearsal of its Christmas production with drummers flying over the crowd on wires. The church says it’s simply offering its best to celebrate the birth of Jesus. Critics say it’s an extravagant violation of Jesus’ humble spirit. Who’s right? New data says Americans are far more isolated and lonely than ever before, and it’s not because of Covid. Is the church the solution or part of the problem? And a researcher offers three surprising explanations for why the decline of religion in the U.S. didn’t start until the 1990s. Then, Old Testament scholar Carmen Imes answers questions about the book of Exodus. Why did God harden Pharaoh’s heart? What does it really mean to take God’s name in vain? And how do all of the details about the tabernacle apply to Christians today? Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Mary 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/75878590/
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Wed, 7 December 2022
Reactions to last week’s show were strong. The Holy Post crew responds to listener feedback about LGBTQ representation in movies and Al Mohler’s defense of conservatism. Former SBC president, Johnny Hunt, was removed from ministry for sexual assault, but last week four ministry colleagues decided it was time to “restore” him. When should disgraced pastors return to ministry, and have congregational and non-denominational churches proven to be incapable of holding toxic leaders accountable? A new Twitter scandal offers more evidence that Christian Nationalism is a mask for racism and misogyny. Then, friend of the podcast Drew Dyck is back to recommend four books covering topics like the formative power of suffering, new medical research about addiction, the best way to read through the Bible, and a novel about Ireland in the 1980s. Plus, Drew’s war against fake Christmas trees. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...Does God use calamities to discipline us? - https://www.patreon.com/posts/75597211
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Mon, 5 December 2022
For more than a century, the American church has been arguing about the exact scope and boundaries of God’s mission. Is the gospel narrowly about the redemption of people’s souls, or does it also care about redeeming the world, society, and broken systems? In other words, is justice part of God’s gospel mission? The way we answer that question has massive implications for what work we believe ultimately matters. This debate has torn the American church apart, but it’s not one shared by many of our sisters and brothers around the world where a holistic vision of God’s mission is just assumed rather than contested. Pastor Luis Luna from Honduras joins Skye Jethani to discuss why he doesn’t separate the care of people’s souls, from the care of their bodies, or the reformation of society. And how this holistic approach to mission sometimes creates problems when well-meaning American Christians bring their narrow definition of the gospel to Central America.
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Fri, 2 December 2022
In 2015, the Supreme Court ruled in Obergefell v Hodges that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marriage. With the recent overturning of Roe v Wade, some are concerned Obergefell may be overturned next. Recently, David French wrote an article supporting a bipartisan bill to protect the legal right to same-sex marriage, and he’s faced an avalanche of criticism for it. In this episode, he talks with Skye Jethani about the Respect for Marriage Act and responds to the critics who say the bill is a threat to religious liberty. French also explains why he’s changed his mind about civil same-sex marriage while remaining opposed to it theologically. 0:00 - Intro
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Wed, 30 November 2022
The Hallmark Channel is now producing Christmas movies with LGBTQ characters and relationships leading the network’s former CEO to launch a new holiday movie channel with straight relationships only. The Holy Post crew discusses the role of representation in entertainment, and why a number of recent LGBTQ-centric movies have bombed at the box office. Then, Al Mohler attacked David French for not opposing civil same-sex marriages leading Phil to ask whether Mohler is more interested in defending Christianity or just conservatism. And Skye talks with Josh Packard from Springtide Research about the mental health of Gen Z. New data says young people who engage in spiritual practices experience greater mental health, but they’re not the practices most congregations promote. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...How do we practically live out holiness? - https://www.patreon.com/posts/75266338/ |
Wed, 23 November 2022
Just in time for the holidays, the Holy Post crew is answering another round of voicemails from our Patreon supporters. On this episode, Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about how much confidence to put in archeological evidence for the Bible, how did Christians interpret Revelation before the recent invention of "Left Behind" theology, when does satire and social media become sinful, what abortion policies could most Americans agree on, and how do you practice the Sabbath with a demanding job and young kids? Plus, they offer practical advice for avoiding arguments with your family about politics and religion during holiday gatherings. Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Creeds 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74991905/
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Wed, 16 November 2022
The U.S. midterm elections were full of surprises. The Holy Post crew asks if the political side of the pro-life movement has hit a wall, and if the Republican Party is really moving on from Donald Trump. Then, new data shows a sharp rise among evangelicals who didn’t attend college and who don’t attend church identifying as Republicans. What does it mean? And a new book chronicles the rise of Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, and the rage-fueled conservative youth culture. Then, Skye talks to Christianity Today’s Morgan Lee about what global Christian leaders think about guns and self-defense. Her reporting on the issue reveals a wide spectrum of beliefs, how our perspective may be more cultural than biblical, and why dysfunctional governments elevate the appeal of guns. Plus, no one accidentally licks a toad. New Holy Post merch - https://www.holypost.com/shop Christian Asks... Salvation and the Sinner’s Prayer - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74702525/
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Wed, 9 November 2022
With the midterm elections happening in the U.S., we’ve seen a rise in both hyperbolic political rhetoric and political violence. There’s evidence that fewer Christians are willing to denounce the use of armed conflict to achieve political goals, with some even arguing America was founded on it. Are they right? Is there a Christian case for political violence? Then, Skye interviews Joe Leininger, a Christian business leader about his journey from believing God only cared about ministry to a much wider vision of his work in the world. Leininger’s new book, “Dirt Clods and Donkeys: An experiment in mentoring that changed lives,” explores how he has helped other Christians in the marketplace develop a more integrated faith. Also this week—Indiana police pursue Pikachu, don’t kiss camels in Qatar, and Kaitlyn explains why she’s a nerd but not a geek. Holy Post merch! - https://www.holypost.com/shop |
Wed, 2 November 2022
Elon Musk announced his takeover of Twitter by carrying a porcelain sink into the headquarters. Will his plan to loosen restrictions on social media help or hurt the country? Archeologist have discovered a new way to verify events in the Old Testament, but Phil wonders if anyone really cares. And is it ever loving for Christians to mock their opponents? The gang examines six rules for Christian mockery from the 17th century and why they may not apply today. Then, spiritual director Ruth Haley Barton explains how she came to see sabbath as a gift rather than an obligation. Her new book, “Embracing Rhythms of Work and Rest,” looks at why we struggle to practice sabbath rest, the challenge of technology, and how to make sabbath a lifestyle and not just a weekly discipline. Plus, the saving power of worm spit. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...How do we build unity around the cross? - https://www.patreon.com/posts/74098797/
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Fri, 28 October 2022
With the Dobbs decision earlier this year, the Supreme Court sent the issue of abortion back to the states, and divisions are opening up within the pro-life movement about what comes next. A very vocal faction calling themselves "abortion abolitionists" are arguing for a complete ban on abortion in all cases, including where the life of the mother is at risk, and the criminal prosecution of women who have them. David French and Skye Jethani examine the abolitionists' arguments, explore why they are gaining popularity among Christians, and why they will actually fail to create the culture of life we want. Plus, French and Jethani engage in unrestrained nerdery as they discuss season one of "The Rings of Power."
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Wed, 26 October 2022
Research finds many Americans are opposed to the gospel because they view Christians as hypocrites, but a new $100 million ad campaign hopes to reintroduce Jesus to the country. But does Jesus really have a PR problem, or does the church have a discipleship problem? Then, culture war issues are fracturing evangelical colleges into 5 distinct groups. What does it mean for the future of the church? Phil talks to pastor and podcaster Mike Erre about how to think biblically about the culture wars. Does the New Testament call the church to have power over the culture, how did Jesus influence others, and what about the presence of real evil in the world? Mike shares his 3 principles for Christians and the culture war. Plus, the Dutch are giving guns to robots. What could possibly go wrong?
Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: Halloween History 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73778907/ News Segment Interview with Mike Erre 51:20 - Guest intro 1:28:06 - Credits Links from news segment:“The Netherlands Has Deployed NATO’s First Killer Robot Ground Vehicles” (Vice) - https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgpax3/the-netherlands-has-deployed-natos-first-killer-robot-ground-vehicles“ Oakland Cops Hope to Arm Robots with Lethal Shotguns” (The Intercept) - https://theintercept.com/2022/10/17/police-robot-gun-oakland/“ A $100 million ad campaign wants to fix Jesus’ image. His followers remain a problem.” (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/10/10/a-100-million-ad-campaign-wants-to-fix-jesuss-image-his-followers-remain-a-problem/ “The Five Emerging Factions in Evangelical Higher Education” (Patheos) - https://www.patheos.com/blogs/anxiousbench/2022/04/the-five-emerging-factions-in-evangelical-higher-education/ Links from interview:"American Evangelicals: Embattled and Thriving" by Christian Smith Crazy: 10 years of podcasts, 1 song (by Phil Vischer) - Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 19 October 2022
Everyone is suddenly talking about Christian nationalism. Some on the political right are embracing the label, while others on the political left are condemning it. Bart Barber, the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention, was interviewed on 60 Minutes this week to explain why Christian nationalism is fundamentally anti-Baptist. But Al Mohler, another influential SBC leader, is less eager to condemn Christian nationalism and takes a more nuanced view. Mohler also says any Christian who doesn’t vote for the Republican Party is being “unfaithful to God.” The Holy Post crew unpacks his argument. Then, Skye interviews Georgetown professor, Paul D. Miller, about his new book, “The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism.” Miller defines Christian nationalism historically, and explains why it is both anti-American and anti-Christian. Plus—When you give a pig a beer... Bonus Patreon Interview with Paul D. Miller: Ukraine & Nuclear Armageddon - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73474701/ 0:00 - Sponsor: The Veritas Forum podcast Listen to The Veritas Forum podcast to engage your heart and mind around the ideas that shape your life. Find it at https://apple.co/3T82prk News Segment 00:44 - Intro 2:39 - Phil’s animation adventures 7:53 - Animal News 12:09 - SBC leaders on Christian nationalism
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“The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism” - https://amzn.to/3gi48we
43:24 - Interview intro 44:57 - Paul’s background 47:59 - What is Christian nationalism? 49:42 - Critique of Christian nationalism 54:18 - Christian nationalism then and now 1:03:11 - Race and Christian nationalism 1:11:05 - Nationalism vs nationality 1:12:57 - Advice for spiritual leaders 1:17:29 - Credits Links from news segment: “Feral pig pinches multiple six-packs of beer and runs riot at Pilbara camp sites” - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-09/beer-swilling-swine/4946072 Southern Baptist Convention President Bart Barber on Trump, abortion, sex abuse in the church and more (CBS) - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/southern-baptist-convention-president-bart-barber-60-minutes-2022-10-09/ “The Guardrails” (The Run-Up podcast) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/29/podcasts/run-up-trump-evangelical-republican.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 12 October 2022
Research now shows that people who constantly consume the news are three times more likely to hold incorrect perspectives than those who only consume news occasionally. How did the news business shift from reporting to distorting? Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss a new article that blames comedian Jon Stewart and The Daily Show for unintentionally transforming the media into a “subscription-based narrative production” business. Then, Skye talks to journalist Bonnie Kristian about her book, “Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community.” She explains the economic and cultural forces that have warped journalism, and strategies that can help us avoid being misinformed. Also this week, Focus on the Family defends Christopher Columbus, and Phil reports on his latest Twitter skirmishes involving abortion and trans vegetables. Bonus Patreon Interview with Bonnie Kristian: Three steps against conspiracism - https://www.patreon.com/posts/73183372/ News Segment Sponsor Interview with Bonnie Kristian 55:03 - Journalism over the past decade Articles from news segment: "Go Ahead and Celebrate Christopher Columbus, Who Sought to Tell the New World About Jesus Christ" by Paul Batura (Focus on the Family's Daily Citizen) - https://dailycitizen.focusonthefamily.com/go-ahead-and-celebrate-christopher-columbus-who-sought-to-tell-the-new-world-about-jesus-christ/ "How Stewart Made Tucker" by Jon Askonas (The New Atlantis) - https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/how-stewart-made-tucker Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 5 October 2022
Were you an evangelical kid in the 1970s, 80s, or 90s? Then you may be suffering from the lingering affects of “rapture anxiety.” Why did rapture theology feature so prominently in the American church, where did it come from, and why does it seem so bizarre to Christians today? Then, Russell Moore has a new article on the heresy of Christian Nationalism accusing it of doing to conservatives what the Social Gospel did to progressives a century ago. Skye then talks to Silicon Valley pastor, Jay Y. Kim, about his book “Analog Christian: Cultivating Contentment, Resilience, and Wisdom in the Digital Age.” Kim says social media is designed to produce the opposite of the Fruit of the Spirit in us, and argues we need to “linger longer” in non-digital, incarnate spaces and relationships to combat its affects. Plus, don’t take a raccoon into a bar, and one tough Turkish toddler. Bonus Patreon Interview with Jay Y. Kim - https://www.patreon.com/posts/72887200 News Segment |
Fri, 30 September 2022
David French is in studio with Skye Jethani and Phil Vischer for a special edition of French Friday. First, they discuss new survey results showing most evangelicals hold shockingly heretical beliefs about the nature of Jesus, but they are absolutely clear about sexual ethics. What does it mean for evangelicalism to make doctrine optional and sexual purity essential? Then, comments from leading conservative voices appear to contradict core conservative values. Can conservatism still be defined, or has it deteriorated into a reactionary movement to “own the libs” and nothing more? Plus, David and Skye nerd-out about the new Amazon series, “The Rings of Power.” 0:00 - Intro 1:55 - Is evangelicalism about Jesus or sexual ethics? 26:24 - Can conservatism be defined? 57:57 - Nerd corner Links and resources mentioned: The Dispatch - https://thedispatch.com “Evangelicals Decenter Jesus” by David French (The Atlantic Newsletter) - https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/the-third-rail/632df352c5c055002255fa9f/us-evangelical-christian-republican/ “The American right’s future involves waging a ‘religious battle’ against the left, leaders say at a conservative conference” (NBC) - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/american-rights-future-involves-waging-religious-battle-left-leaders-s-rcna48961 Fuller Youth Institute - https://fulleryouthinstitute.org/stickyfaith “The Evangelical Question in the History of American Religion” by Kirsten Sanders (The Hedgehog Review) - https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/the-evangelical-question-in-the-history-of-american-religion Holy Post episode 526 (includes discussion of above article) - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-526-was-the-constitution-divinely-inspired-with-kaitlyn-schiess National Conservatism: A Statement of Principles - https://nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/ “How Do Christians Fit Into the Two-Party System? They Don’t” by Tim Keller, 2018 (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/29/opinion/sunday/christians-politics-belief.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost |
Wed, 28 September 2022
The death of Queen Elizabeth has many wondering about the future of Christianity in the UK. The Queen was outspoken about her faith in Jesus Christ, but how will King Charles change what it means for the monarch to be the “Defender of the Faith”? We all know evangelicals are divided by politics, but a new report by Catholic bishops says Roman Catholics are too. What can we learn from one another? Poverty among kids in the U.S. has declined dramatically in recent decades. Liberals say it’s the result of government programs. Conservative credit economic growth. Who is right? Then, Anglican pastor Aaron Damiani talks with Skye about his journey from megachurch burnout to life-giving liturgy. His new book, “Earth Filled with Heaven,” is written to Christians skeptical about tradition, rituals, and sacraments, but they might be the key to saving evangelicalism from itself. Plus, why you shouldn’t drink coffee before shopping or trust ads featuring dogs. Bonus Patreon Interview with Aaron Damiani - Https://www.patreon.com/posts/72516965/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 03:06 - Dog and cat marketing 9:42 - Drinking coffee before shopping 11:13- The Queen’s faith and Christianity in the UK 21:46 - Catholic church split by politics 30:36 - Child poverty has declined Interview with Aaron Damiani “Earth Filled with Heaven: Finding Life in Liturgy, Sacraments, and other Ancient Practices of the Church” - https://amzn.to/3Szeaqy Aaron Damiani - https://twitter.com/aarondamiani 43:55 - Background 47:47 - Megachurch burnout 52:14 - Liturgy and sacrament overview 59:38 - Misperceptions about liturgy 1:08:21 - Mitigating celebrity dynamics in the church 1:11:48 - Is this just another novelty? 1:15:08 - Credits Articles from news segment:“Dog owners take more risks, cat owners are more cautious, research finds” by Lei Jia (Salon) - https://www.salon.com/2022/09/04/dog-owners-take-more-risks-cat-owners-are-more-cautious-research-finds_partner/ “Drinking coffee before shopping could make you spend more” by Adam Barnes (The Hill) - https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/3567346-drinking-coffee-before-shopping-could-make-you-spend-more/ “US Catholic bishops’ report to the Vatican shows a church split by politics” by Claire Giangravé (Religion News Service) - https://religionnews.com/2022/09/23/u-s-catholic-bishops-report-to-the-vatican-shows-a-church-split-by-politics/ “Expanded Safety Net Drives Sharp Drop in Child Poverty” by Jason DeParle (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/11/us/politics/child-poverty-analysis-safety-net.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 21 September 2022
A court has ruled that a Christian-owned business is not required to pay for health insurance that includes drugs to prevent HIV. Is the ruling a victory for religious liberty, or a case of Christians unfairly imposing their beliefs on others? In an effort to “bring God back into public schools" Taxes now requires schools to display “In God We Trust” signs. But what happens when the sign is in Arabic? Southern governors are shipping undocumented immigrants North. But is their goal to actually solve the immigration crisis, or are they using vulnerable people for a partisan stunt? Then, pastor and culture-watcher Mark Sayers is back to talk about his new book, “A Non-Anxious Presence.” He says we’ve entered a new cultural era riddled with anxiety and uncertainty that Christian leaders relying on the previous era’s models are not equipped to handle. Drawing from Friedman’s family-systems theory, Sayers argues we must learn to patiently resist the unhealthy people in our communities, endure sabotage, and fundamentally rethink our definitions of success. Plus, annual awards for hilarious scientific achievements. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks...Do we actually know what happens the moment we die? https://www.patreon.com/posts/72258893/
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Wed, 14 September 2022
The water crisis in Jackson, Mississippi, was foreseeable and preventable. Did white evangelicalism's anti-government attitude contribute to the catastrophe? Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson has yet another take on the evangelical infatuation with Trump. Do we need any more? And a recent article by theologian Kirsten Sanders says we’ve entered a new era of evangelicalism where online influencers are shaping the movement more than pastors or institutions. Then, Skye and Kaitlyn discuss the belief held by some American Christians that the Constitution was inspired by God. Where did this view come from? Why is it dangerous? And why is it finding new popularity today? Plus, Phil plops a headline. News Segment Sponsor Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess Resources from Getting Schooled: “The Bible in Politics” by Richard Bauckham - https://amzn.to/3U1zQgF “Every Leaf, Line, and Letter” edited by Timothy Larsen - https://amzn.to/3U9M7ja Articles mentioned: “Trump should fill Christians with rage. How come he doesn’t?” by Michael Gerson (The Washington Post) - “The Evangelical Question in the History of American Religion” by Kirsten Sanders (The Hedgehog Review) - https://hedgehogreview.com/issues/the-use-and-abuse-of-history/articles/the-evangelical-question-in-the-history-of-american-religion Join us on Patreon for more episodes of Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess and other great bonus content! Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Fri, 9 September 2022
The Bible is one of God’s most important gifts to his people. Through it we discover who he is and become equipped to follow him in the world. But rather than a source of unity, for many Christians the Bible is a point of conflict and division—especially when we fail to recognize the difference between the Bible and our cultural interpretation of the Bible. My guest today, Lanre Williams-Ayedun, says one of best ways to overcome this danger is by engaging our sisters and brothers from other parts of the global church. When we listen to how they read the Scriptures, it can both illuminate things we’ve never seen before and make us more humble about our own grasp of God’s word “Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church” by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc Interview with Lanre Williams-Ayedun 0:00 - Intro Sponsor Debrief with Matthew Soerens 53:21 - Credits Resources mentioned: Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 7 September 2022
Historically, evangelicals have been the group of Americans most resistant to taking action against climate change. The National Association of Evangelicals hopes to change that. Phil, Christian and Skye discuss the NAE’s new report and their attempt to ground environmental care in the biblical call to love your neighbor. Will it work? Then, the Most Interesting Evangelical in the World, Bob Roberts Jr., is back to talk about extremism. For over 20 years he has been a trailblazer in the peacemaking and international religious freedom arenas, and has studied how extremism takes root. That’s why Roberts says what’s happening in America right now is terrifying, and warns the church that remaining silent about conspiracy theories, political hate speech, and Christian Nationalism is not an option. Plus, a pumpkin regatta and tomatoes hit the road. News Segment 00:00 - Intro Sponsor 45:13 - Sponsor: Abide
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Wed, 31 August 2022
Immediately after President Biden announced his college loan forgiveness plan Christians started debating it. Some are arguing that debt forgiveness is deeply biblical, while others say it’s completely immoral. Who’s right? Or, are both sides missing the point? Then, Phil is still processing the last French Friday episode about why so many politically active evangelicals see policy goals as absolute and Christian virtues as flexible. He offers his theories. Skye then talks to pastor Rich Villodas about his conversion, his early spiritual formation, and how he’s avoided the pitfalls of pastoral ministry. His new book is “Good and Beautiful and Kind: Becoming Whole in a Fractured World.” Plus: Row, row, row…your pumpkin? News Segment Interview with Rich Villodas
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Fri, 26 August 2022
In a recent article, Russell Moore lamented the captivity of evangelicals to conspiracy theories and political radicalization, but he argued “the problem is not in the pulpit” and “the problem isn’t primarily in the pews either.” Instead, he believes the radicalization is happening outside the church. David French and Skye Jethani agree that radicalization is happing outside the church, but say there is also a real problem in the pews. What role do churches and pastors have in de-radicalizing evangelicals, and what’s preventing them from speaking up and doing more? Then, French shares about a pro-life atheist who positively influenced his own values. That leads to a wider discussion about the importance of forming relationships with and engaging the ideas of those we disagree with. Rather than seeking the safety of never being challenged, welcoming the discomfort of divergent voices will provoke us toward growth and maturity. 0:00 - Intro 00:50 - De-radicalizing the church 38:11 - Learning from atheists 1:05:14 - Credits "Christian Political Ethics are Upside-Down" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside "When the South Loosens Its Bible Belt" by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/august-web-only/russell-moore-white-evangelicals-bible-belt-south-church.html "There Is a Secular Case for Life" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/there-is-a-secular-case-for-life "The Gift of Pain" by Paul Brand and Philip Yancey - https://amzn.to/3ArfV1w "What in the World?" Holy Post miniseries - https://www.holypost.com/articles/categories/what-in-the-world Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost David French - https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 24 August 2022
Two things are simultaneously true about America: More Americans than ever before are abandoning religion, and America remains the most devoutly Christian industrialized country in the world. Today's episode navigates this tension. First, a recent article by Helen Lewis says non-believers still have religious impulses that are now being expressed through political activism. Is Christian faith being replaced by Wokism on the left and Nationalism on the right? Then, David French asks why our politics are so toxic and hateful if both parties are still dependent on devoutly Christian voters. What will it take for believers on both sides to put Christian virtue ahead of just winning elections? And Kaitlyn Schiess talks to Lore Ferguson Wilbert about her new book, “A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us.” She says too many Christian communities discourage curiosity while the Bible is “a permission slip to ask questions.” Plus, scientists are growing animals in artificial wombs without eggs or sperm. What could possibly go wrong? Patreon Bonus - Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess: The Harrowing of Hell 101 - patreon.com/posts/70936439/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro 4:07 - What could possibly go wrong? 15:20 - Is social justice a new religion? 30:46 - Christian political ethics Interview with Lore Ferguson Wilbert "A Curious Faith: The Questions God Asks, We Ask, and We Wish Someone Would Ask Us" - https://amzn.to/3cngHVc 48:37 - Lore Ferguson Wilbert intro 50:02 - Why we struggle with questions 57:27 - Joy in questions 1:03:54 - Questions in Scripture 1:13:47 - Facing life's questions 1:20:09 - Jesus' humanity 1:25:50 - Credits Other articles and resources mentioned: "Synthetic embryos grown from stem cells don't need sperm or eggs" - https://newatlas.com/biology/synthetic-embryos-stem-cells "How Social Justice Became a New Religion" by Helen Lewis (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/social-justice-new-religion/671172/ "Christian Political Ethics Are Upside Down" by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside Holy Post episode 522 (last week's episode) - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-522-the-new-secular-south-celebrities-for-jesus-with-katelyn-beaty "Overland to the Islands" poem by Denise Levertov - https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2011/03/saturday-poem-1-73.html Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 17 August 2022
Evangelicals are no longer the largest religious group in the South. Russell Moore says they’ve been replaced by a dangerous new kind of southern secularism. These MAGA-vangelicals don’t attend church, don’t follow the moral teachings of the Bible, and are fixated on politics and conspiracy theories but still call themselves “Christians.” What role does the church have in mitigating the danger of this new sect? Plus, a church in Texas faces legal trouble for performing an evangelistic revision of the musical Hamilton without a license. Then, Katelyn Beaty is back to discuss her new book Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits are Hurting the Church. She explains why we keep manufacturing more Christian celebrities despite their high failure rate, and why accountability structures aren’t enough. Also this week, Phil eulogizes Freya the walrus, and a man sues after five years of flatulence. Patreon Bonus with Katelyn Beaty: The ugly side of Christian publishing - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70617486/
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Fri, 12 August 2022
What does it mean to see others as image-bearers of God? How is this warped by American individualism? And what happens to justice when we abandon God for idols—false images of God? Based on the book Inalienable by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens, in this episode Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) talks to Sri Lankan Christian leader Vinoth Ramachandra about the intersection of idolatry and mission. He explains how what we worship shapes us and our work in the world in unexpected ways, and that he believes the American church needs to admit to and repent of its idols. “Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church” by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc 0:00 - Theme song and intro Debrief with Eric Costanzo and Daniel Yang
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Wed, 10 August 2022
For centuries Americans have valued their liberty, but a growing number of conservatives are now saying cherished values like the freedom of speech, religion, and the press have allowed progressive beliefs to destroy the culture. In response, some Republicans and conservative Christian thinkers argue it’s time to abandon these failed American ideals and copy the fascist, illiberal strategies of leaders like Hungary’s Victor Orban to stop immigration, fight wokism, and to ensure the government supports Christian beliefs. Then, a new article about the separation of families at the Southern border brings Phil to tears, and he pleads with evangelicals to not allow Trump near the presidency again. Skye interviews Dr. Richard Mouw about his new book, “How to Be a Patriotic Christian: Love of Country as Love of Neighbor.” They discuss godly versus idolatrous forms of patriotism, what the Bible says about the proper role of government, and debate whether churches should display flags and sing patriotic hymns. Bonus Patreon news story - https://www.patreon.com/posts/70304989 News Segment 54:24 - With God Daily Interview with Richard Mouw 55:48 - Interview intro Other articles/resources mentioned:"How the American Right Fell in Love with Hungary" (The NYT Magazine)-https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/19/magazine/viktor-orban-rod-dreher.html" The Secret History of Family Separation" (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/09/trump-administration-family-separation-policy-immigration/670604/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 3 August 2022
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Fri, 29 July 2022
For decades, political strategists spoke about the "God gap" in which white religious believers were more Republican and white non-believers more Democratic. Recent data shows a new God gap emerging within the Democratic Party. David French explains how secular white progressives are now pushing religious Black and Latino voters out of the Democratic coalition. Then, Jethani and French explore how Trump has discipled the church more than the church has discipled Trump. There's growing evidence that cruelty, dishonesty, and a refusal to repent are being embraced by Christians aligned with Trump. Will this trend self-correct and what will be its legacy on our culture? 0:00 - Theme song and intro 0:46 - The new God gap 31:33 - Discipled by Trump 1:00:33 - Credits "The God Gap Helps Explain a 'Seismic Shift' in American Politics" (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-most-important-religious-divide "There Is No Remaining Christian Case for Trump" (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/there-is-no-remaining-christian-case |
Wed, 27 July 2022
Phil has another "crazy theory," and Skye and Kaitlyn aren't sure what to make of it. What if 1964 is one of the hinge points in American history? 1964, as Phil explains, was the year a Catholic housewife from Illinois and a mid-tier movie star from Hollywood attempted to put an Arizonan libertarian in the White House. Their effort failed, but in the process did they actually plant the seeds that would remake both America and the American church?? Give a listen as Phil spins the story of three unlikely people he believes "made" modern conservatism inside and outside the American church... Barry Goldwater, Phyllis Schlafly and Ronald Reagan. You don't have to agree. Just humor him. PLUS Kaitlyn interviews Skye about his new book - What if Jesus was Serious About the Church? Holy Post Patreon: https://patreon.com/holypost News Segment Interview with Skye Jethani "What If Jesus Was Serious About the Church?" - https://amzn.to/3PNlVI6 The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases |
Wed, 20 July 2022
With Trump out of office and the pandemic restrictions eased, Christian Nationalists are looking for new causes to rally the MAGA faithful. The Holy Post crew looks at the latest stories from these holy trollers including Michael Flynn’s incoherent argument that the Bible “wrote” most of the Constitution. A new exposé of MAGA worship leader Sean Feucht by Rolling Stone shows his ministry, which has one employee, has raised millions in donations and purchased three houses. And Jemar Tisby offers a useful definition of Christian Nationalism that reveals why it’s not Christian at all. Then Kaitlyn Schiess interviews disabled scholar and Shakespeare lecturer, Amy Kenny, about her book My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church. Together, they unpack overlooked or misinterpreted passages in the gospels about disabilities, and Kenny explains why the church is missing out on the prophetic witness and blessing of disability. News Segment:
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Fri, 15 July 2022
How big is the scope of the gospel? What does God's kingdom include? And what happens when we discover the American church isn’t the center of it? Based on the book Inalienable by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens, in this episode Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) talks to theologian and missiologist Dr. Ruth Padilla DeBorst. With extensive experience in the Latin American church, Padilla DeBorst explains how popular American Christianity misunderstands the Kingdom of God, and how seeking the wisdom of the global church can guild the American church through its current crisis. "Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church" by Eric Costanzo, Daniel Yang, and Matthew Soerens - https://amzn.to/3RyObjc 0:00 - Theme song and intro Debrief with Matthew Soerens and Daniel Yang The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 13 July 2022
A network of global Christian churches have decided to combat climate change by divesting from gas and oil companies. But why aren’t any Protestant American churches participating, and do climate activists care that efforts to replace fossil fuels disproportionately harm the poor? And a new article by Beth Allison Barr examines the difference between the political pro-life movement and the biblical pro-life ethic. Then, Matthew Soerens is back to discuss the new book he’s co-authored with Eric Costanzo and Daniel Yang, “Inalienable: How Marginalized Kingdom Voices Can Help Save the American Church.” As white evangelicals lose their grip on cultural and political power in the U.S., Soerens says they may discover how to follow Christ more faithfully from sisters and brothers in the global church who never had power to begin with. Plus, New Zealand taxes bovine burps. News Segment Sponsors Interview with Matthew Soerens 54:51 - Matthew Soerens interview intro "Global faith institutions announce divestment..." (Operation Noah) - https://operationnoah.org/featured/press-release-global-faith-institutions-announce-d[…]es-threaten-1-5c-climate-goal-with-reckless-expansion-plans/ "MIT Scientists Propose 'Space Bubbles' to Deflect Solar Radiation, Ease Climate Change" (Popular Mechanics) - "The Women Left Behind by the Pro-Life Movement" by Beth Allison Barr (Religion & Politics) - https://religionandpolitics.org/2022/07/11/the-women-left-behind-by-the-pro-life-movement/ Resources mentioned in interview: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 6 July 2022
Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it’s losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest’s article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book “Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.” Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons—both positive and negative—from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling. Patreon Bonus: Christian Asks... Angry mobs and the end times - https://www.patreon.com/posts/68708383/
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Wed, 29 June 2022
Phil and Kaitlyn are finally back from (separate) trips to Europe, but they’re returning to a very different America. The Supreme Court has officially overturned Roe and ended the Constitutional right to abortion. What’s good about the decision? What’s concerning? And why is it increasingly unacceptable to have a nuanced understanding of this issue? Then, a new article by Ronald Brownstein says America’s relative unity in the 20th century was an anomaly, and the country may be heading toward a permanent split. Can the union be saved? Skye then talked to Amy Sherman, the author of our Holy Post Book Club selection, “Agents of Flourishing: Pursuing Shalom in Every Corner of Society.” Sherman says we need a larger, more biblical vision of God’s redemption, and we must recapture what it means for Christ’s people to be a “royal priesthood” in parts of the culture often overlooked by the church. Plus, Phil’s European report includes wild horses, naked Dutch men, and a frustrating lack of Diet Coke. Patreon Bonus: Getting Schooled by Kaitlyn Schiess, Faith & Capitalism 101 - https://www.patreon.com/posts/68383122 News Segment 0:00 - Intro 1:28 - Kaitlyn’s travelogue 6:54 - Phil’s travelogue 20:03 - America after Roe 44:28 - America growing apart Interview with Amy Sherman Amy Sherman - https://sagamoreinstitute.org/bio-amy-sherman/ “Agents of Flourishing” - https://amzn.to/3HZZdtp 57:07 - Amy Sherman intro 59:02 - Jeremiah 29:7 1:05:27 - Royal priesthood 1:10:08 - Community endowments 1:13:24 - Understanding flourishing 1:24:09 - Ethics and Christian influence Other resources referenced in episode: “Roe Is Reversed, and the Right Isn’t Ready” by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/roe-is-reversed-and-the-right-isnt “America is Growing Apart, Possibly for Good” by Ronal Brownstein (The Atlantic) - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/06/red-and-blue-state-divide-is-growing-michael-podhorzer-newsletter/661377/ “No Future Without Forgiveness” by Desmond Tutu - https://amzn.to/3nof6R3 The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Fri, 24 June 2022
The Supreme Court has ruled that the state of Maine cannot exclude private schools from its voucher program simply because they are religious. David French explains the ruling and how it fits into decades of pro-religious liberty wins. Skye Jethani asks how the courts define “religion” and why secular philosophy has an unfair advantage in public schools. Then, the January 6th hearings are revealing how people within Trump’s party and administration thwarted his attempts to reverse the outcome of the election. They’ve testified about his lies and his illegal actions. So why do so many of them say they’ll still vote for him in 2024? French and Jethani discuss how the GOP can move on from Donald Trump, why that’s unlikely, and the challenges facing both parties in the next election. 0:00 - Intro |
Wed, 22 June 2022
A recent article in the Atlantic reveals how the political polarization in the United States is now tearing evangelical churches apart. And Marvin Olasky, the former editor of World Magazine, writes about the dramatic change he witnessed among evangelicals over his long career. Drawing from thousands of letters he received, Olasky concludes, “The Republican party platform has become more important than the gospel for many who identify as evangelicals.” Special guest co-host Drew Dyck joins Phil and Skye to discuss the articles. Then, president of Barna research, David Kinnaman, is back with more stats to unpack. With a record number of pastors thinking seriously about quitting, and political polarization listed among the top reasons, Kinnaman says the church is facing a crisis of discipleship. He believes we need a political theology that’s rooted in the gospel rather than partisanship. But is it too late? Also this week, fear over climate change is making progressives question the morality of having kids. And, South Korean college students are flush with cash. News Segment
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“The Sixty Years’ War: Evangelical Christianity in the Age of Trump” by Marvin Olasky (National Review) - https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2022/06/27/the-sixty-years-war-evangelical-christianity-in-the-age-of-trump/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 15 June 2022
Responses to the mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas, have continued, and there’s renewed hope for policy changes. This week, Jo Saxton joins Phil and Skye as a guest co-host to discuss a series of articles from African-American and global Christian leaders about the need to rethink both America’s gun policies and the American church’s gun culture. Then, BibleProject co-founders, Jon Collins and Tim Mackie, talk with Skye about how their work has shifted from just teaching what’s in the Bible to teaching people how to read the Bible. Their new app and podcast series is designed to help us see the Bible as brilliant literature, and not just a depository of quick answers to life’s problems. Also this week, should we be concerned that more people are having wedding ceremonies to marry themselves? News Segment 0:00 - Intro Interview with Jon Collins and Tim Mackie
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Wed, 8 June 2022
Christians who oppose more restrictive gun control policies say we have a God-given constitutional right to self-defense. But is there any evidence to back this claim? With Christian and Kaitlyn both in Europe, Phil and Skye invite Mike Erre from the Voxology podcast to fill the empty co-host chair. Mike looks at the biblical texts cited by gun advocates and says that even if self-defense can be justified, for the Christian it is not a “right.” Then, Skye talks to Lina AbuJamra about her book, “Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to Faith in an Age of Deconstruction.” Like so many, AbuJamra entered a season of significant doubt not because of anti-Christian messages from the culture, but after experiencing a toxic leadership culture at her church. She shares what restored her faith, the danger of false expectations, and why honesty about our disillusionment is the first step. Also this week—California declares that bees are fish, and scientists accidentally create murder hamsters. What could possibly go wrong? Holy Post 10th Anniversary Merch: https://www.holypost.com/shop News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 4:18 - Bees are fish 9:11 - Murder hamsters 14:55 - Re: French Friday episode on gun control French Friday: Debating Gun Control - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-debating-gun-control 19:39 - Constitutional right to self-defense? The Federalist Papers: No 46 - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed46.asp 27:05 - Biblical right to self-defense? 46:53 - Thoughts and prayers Sponsor 51:28 - Faithful Counseling faithfulcounseling.com/holypost Interview with Lina AbuJamra: “Fractured Faith: Finding Your Way Back to God in an Age of Deconstruction” - https://amzn.to/3xqCiEa Living with Power - https://www.livingwithpower.org 52:38 - Lina AbuJamra intro 54:44 - Journey that led to deconstruction 1:02:20 - False expectations 1:08:10 - American evangelical leadership crisis 1:15:23 - Honesty in disillusionment 1:24:56 - Credits Other resources mentioned: Voxology podcast - https://voxologypodcast.com The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Fri, 3 June 2022
*Please be aware that this episode deals with sensitive topics, including suicide and child/adolescent mortality.* In the wake of the elementary school massacre in Uvalde, Texas, David French and Skye Jethani spend the whole episode debating what can be done to curb gun deaths in America. While they find some agreement around “Red Flag” laws and making gun owners liable for the misuse of their weapons, French doesn’t support an assault weapons ban or requiring training and evaluation before purchasing a gun. With guns now the leading cause of death for kids and teens in America, Skye says it’s time for Christians to explore all possible solutions, including amending the Constitution, similar to the pro-life movement’s approach to ending abortion. David French says the 2nd Amendment must be protected as a basic human right. Both agree, however, that the status quo is not acceptable. Holy Post episode 423: “Is America’s Gun Culture a Blessing or Curse? with David French” - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-423-is-america-s-gun-culture-a-blessing-or-curse-with-david-french “Pass and Enforce Red Flag Laws. Now.”- https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/pass-and-enforce-red-flag-laws-now?s=r“ Guns are now the leading cause of death for American children” - https://news.yahoo.com/guns-now-leading-cause-death-190042943.html Advisory Opinions episode: “Mass Shootings and the Law” - https://advisoryopinions.thedispatch.com/p/mass-shootings-and-the-law?s=r#details |
Wed, 1 June 2022
The United States has experienced another horrific school shooting, and the country is once again debating guns. Will this time be any different? Phil asks why the U.S. is incapable of passing sensible gun regulations like Australia did 25 years ago, and why do so many evangelicals support America’s gun culture and the 2nd Amendment with religious-like devotion? Skye then interviews Andy Crouch about his new book about the dehumanizing effects of technology. Crouch says we are drawn to tech the same way the ancients were tempted by magic. Both offer the promise of “effortless power,” but it always comes with a cost. And he says we should look to early Christianity for ways to restore dignity and personhood to our culture. Plus, critical listener responses to our recent Roe v Wade episode. News Segment 20:58 - Baby formula Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted” - https://www.vox.com/2015/8/27/9212725/australia-buyback Holy Post episode 423: Is America’s Gun Culture a Blessing or Curse? - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-423-is-america-s-gun-culture-a-blessing-or-curse-with-david-french Interview with Andy Crouch“The Life We’re Looking For: Reclaiming Relationship in a Technological World” - https://amzn.to/3M6EbtH 51:11 - Andy Crouch intro 1:28:42 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Fri, 27 May 2022
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Wed, 25 May 2022
The independent report about the cover-up of sexual abuse within the Southern Baptist Convention has been released, and it’s far worse than anyone expected. What does it mean for the SBC and American evangelicalism in general? And Phil asks if there’s a difference between engaging in godly cultural transformation and fighting a culture war. Was William Wilberforce a culture warrior? And when are we really seeking change, and when are we just virtue signaling? Then, Kaitlyn welcomes Washington Post opinion columnist and editor, Christine Emba, to discuss her new book “Rethinking Sex: A Provocation.” After interviewing dozens of young adults, Emba concludes that evangelical purity culture has problems, but so does the secular message of sex positivity. Instead, she draws from Christian theology and tradition to propose an ethical framework that goes beyond consent alone. Plus, Phil refuses to be concerned about an invasion of aggressive jumping worms. News Segment: Interview with Christine Emba “Rethinking Sex: A Provocation” - https://amzn.to/38gtHdj “Consent is not enough. We need a new sexual ethic.”- https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/17/sex-ethics-rethinking-consent-culture/ 49:41 - Christine Emba intro Resources mentioned in news segment: “Southern Baptists Refused to Act on Abuse, Despite Secret List of Pastors” by Kate Shellnutt (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/may/southern-baptist-abuse-investigation-sbc-ec-legal-survivors.html “This Is the Southern Baptist Apocalypse” by Russell Moore (Christianity Today) - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/may-web-only/southern-baptist-abuse-apocalypse-russell-moore.html “The Gift of Pain” by Paul Brand and Philip Yancey - https://amzn.to/3wGWjGa The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 18 May 2022
Despite the uproar over the leaked Supreme Court decision overturning Roe, it turns out 80 percent of Americans have a nuanced view of the issue. Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss responses to last week’s show and ask why are we nuanced about some moral issues and absolutist about others. Then, conservative Christians are attacking Tim Keller for his winsome, non-partisan approach to Christianity. They say winsomeness may have worked in the past, but now the culture war is so dangerous that we need a more aggressive and offensive approach. Are they right? Skye interviews Eboo Patel, the founder and president of Interfaith America, about his new book “We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy.” Patel, a Muslim-American, talks about the transformative role Christianity had on his calling, why interfaith cooperation is essential, and what concerns him about the current culture of activism in America. Plus, scientists discover the Mariah Carey of jellyfish. “Christian Asks” Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66555715/ News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates Interview with Eboo Patel“We Need to Build: Field Notes for Diverse Democracy” - https://amzn.to/3MquyqO The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 11 May 2022
The leak of a draft ruling by the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade has the entire country talking. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the overreactions from both the Left and Right, speculate about what a post-Roe America might look like, examine the complicated history of abortion including why many evangelicals originally supported Roe but then dramatically flipped on the issue, and share their hopes for what comes next. Then, acclaimed historian Mark Noll talks about the 30th anniversary of his influential book, “The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind.” In the early 1990s, Noll celebrated the strength of the evangelical church, but he warned about a dangerous shortage of evangelical scholars. Today, he fears the opposite. While evangelical scholarship has never been stronger, Noll is deeply concerned about an anti-intellectual church taken with conspiracy theories and partisan politics. Patreon Bonus segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/66264481/ News Segment
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Wed, 4 May 2022
In the 1980s, Frank Peretti’s best-selling novels about the spiritual war between angels and demons captivated evangelicals, but they also fostered a belief that anything out of step with conservative white Christianity was downright satanic. The podcast crew discuss their own experiences with Peretti’s books and how they’ve shaped today’s culture war—including a congresswoman’s recent statement that Catholics helping immigrants is proof the church is run by Satan. Then, Beth Allison Barr is back one year after the release of her provocative book “The Making of Biblical Womanhood,” to discuss what she’s learned from her critics as well as from her fans. And she offers pastoral advice for those struggling in patriarchal Christian communities. Plus, a family finds a tasty time capsule in their bathroom wall, and the underappreciated charms of Dubuque, Iowa. Patreon Bonus: https://www.patreon.com/posts/65967806/ News Segment 16:49 - Fantasy novels and satanic conspiracies 46:56 - Patreon bonus plug Interview with Beth Allison Barr “The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth” book - https://amzn.to/3KNm8s0Postscript to book - http://cdn.bakerpublishinggroup.com/processed/book-resources/files/The_Making_of_Biblical_Womanhood_-_Postscript_Chapter.pdf?1650389860 47:53 - Intro 1:25:09 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Fri, 29 April 2022
The Supreme Court is hearing arguments in a case about a public high school football coach who prays on the field. Is he violating the First Amendment because he’s a state-funded employee engaging in religious activity on the job? Or, is his religious expression protected by the First Amendment? David French explains the court’s history on public school teachers and free speech, why he thinks the coach is likely to win, and why religious liberty protections have never been stronger. Then, French talks about his first encounter with Critical Race Theory as a law student at Harvard 30 years ago. Skye asks, if CRT has been around for so long, why is it only now being seen as a threat to both America and Christianity? French explains how the definition of CRT has changed, how it’s been leveraged by media voices on the political right since 2020, and why the issue of race may be leading to a new schism in the American church. 00:00 - Intro 00:45 - Football Prayer “Why We Fight About Football Prayers” - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/april-web-only/scouts-football-prayers-kennedy-bremerton-first-amendment.html 31:07 - CRT hysteria “How the Fight Over Critical Race Theory Became a Religious War” - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/how-the-fight-over-critical-race?s=r “Racial Compromise and Complicity at Grove City College” - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/racial-compromise-and-complicity?r=dfab0&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web 1:04:05 - Credits |
Wed, 27 April 2022
The battle between Governor DeSantis and Disney is heating up in Florida. The culture war may be good for politicians, but why is it bad for Christians? Then, a former White House spokesperson says if Christians want to win the culture war they need to have more babies. Kaitlyn and Skye explain why that strategy contradicts the New Testament. Phil looks at Grove City College’s anti-CRT statement and why the school’s attack on Jemar Tisby amounts to revisionist history. Then, Kaitlyn talks with Rachel Anderson from the Center for Public Justice about her advocacy for paid family leave, why the policy is proven to reduce abortions, and how it fits with Christian theology and ethics. Plus, Phil is building a big beautiful wall. News Segment 38:07 - Grove City College and Jemar Tisby Sponsor Interview with Rachel Anderson |
Wed, 20 April 2022
In a lengthy article in The Atlantic, social psychologist Jonathan Haidt explains how social media has made our entire society more stupid in the last decade, and compares the disunity it’s causing to the Tower of Babel. Phil, Skye, and Christian discuss the article and what can be done to reverse the trends. Then, pastor Albert Tate talks about his new book, “How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation.” By sharing personal stories, Tate says we must learn to live with being offended, commit to community, and love anyway. Plus, teenage gorillas are getting too much screen time. News Segment 6:16 - Gorillas, teens, and screen time Holy Post episode 495 with Robert Tracy McKenzie- https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie Unbelievable? The Conference - https://www.unbelievable.live Interview with Albert Tate 47:51 - Interview intro The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 13 April 2022
Conservative political rallies and protests are increasingly using Christian worship music. How is this different than the role of faith in the Civil Rights movement, and why should Christians on all sides be cautious about attaching God’s name to their activism? Then, new data says Trump’s presidency dramatically altered attitudes about race and prejudice in America. And Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn respond to listener questions about last week’s episode on Disney and LGBTQ representation. Then, author and editor Drew Dyck is back for another round of media recommendations. This installment of “Dyck’s Picks” includes a book on deconstruction, some Easter-themed poetry, and a TV drama with something to say to the church about ethics and the culture war. Plus, beware of un-Lucky Charms. News Segment: 5:22 - News of the Butt 8:10 - Listener responses to last week’s episode 20:25 - Political worship rallies 37:43 - Trump’s racial topography Sponsor: Dyck’s Picks with Drew Dyck: 1:1:15 - Pick 2: Yellowstone (TV series) 1:19:23 - Final story: “With” by Skye Jethani 1:24:14 - Credits The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 6 April 2022
The feud between Florida’s governor and Disney is getting hotter with new leaked footage of a Disney executive speaking about the company’s goals for LGBTQ representation. What are both the Right and Left getting wrong in the debate, and why should we see sexual orientation and gender identity as different from race? Also, new studies show an alarming rise in mental health disorders among teens, but there’s some good news for those involved in religious communities. Plus, Derwin Gray is back to talk about his new book, “How to Heal our Racial Divide.” He shares how his church is taking the call for racial reconciliation “from the seats to the streets,” and why so many church leaders remain afraid to talk about race. News Segment 0:00 - Intro and updates 3:30 - Disney controversy update 26:43 - Teen mental health https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/03/31/student-mental-health-decline-cdc/ 31:34 - Religion, college, and mental health https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/opinion/religion-school-success.html https://neurosciencenews.com/religious-accountability-wellbeing-20126/ Interview with Derwin Gray “How to Heal Our Racial Divide” - https://amzn.to/3JaWnkn Derwin Gray - derwinlgray.com 45:44 - Intro 47:18 - Book overview 49:01 - Multiethnic churches and resistance from leaders 1:01:13 - Christian responsibility in fixing unjust systems 1:09:09 - Police 1:17:11 - Importance of mourning 1:26:24 - Credits Other resources mentioned: Holy Post episode 458: “The Gospel Demands Multiethnic Churches” - https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-458-the-gospel-demands-multiethnic-churches Derwin Gray’s IG live with former CMPD Chief, Kerr Putney: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAxrK4hJzLj/ The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases |
Wed, 30 March 2022
The conservative (and maybe Christian?) satire site Babylon Bee has had their Twitter account suspended for giving a trans woman their “Man of the Year” award. Babylon Bee says they’re being punished for speaking the truth, but are they just being mean? And an essay in the Washington Post by Christine Emba says our sexual ethic of consent alone isn’t working. Has she uncovered evidence that our secular culture is more receptive to Christian sexual ethics than we thought? Then Kaitlyn Schiess talks with author, poet, and English profess Daniel Bowman Jr. about his book, “On the Spectrum: Autism, Faith, & the Gifts of Neurodiversity.” Bowman, who is on the spectrum himself, dispels myths about autism and offers helpful ideas about how we can love those in our families and communities who are neurodiverse. Plus, an update from the Animal News desk.
Holy Post Patreon (now with book club!) - https://www.patreon.com/holypost News Segment 0:00 - Intro 10:41 - Babylon Bee Sponsor Interview with Daniel Bowman Jr. https://www.danielbowmanjr.com
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Fri, 25 March 2022
Before recently winning the NCAA women’s 500-yard freestyle swimming championship, Lia Thomas competed in the sport as a man. Should that matter? David French talks with Skye Jethani about the complexities of transgender rights, and why we need a more nuanced understanding of what “equal protection” means in the law. Then, French says the real divisions in our culture and politics aren’t primarily between Republicans and Democrats, or between conservatives and progressives, but between a traditional understanding of liberalism and the dangers of illiberalism. 0:00 - Intro 34:28 - Liberalism and illiberalism |
Wed, 23 March 2022
Florida is the latest front in the culture war with a controversial bill to prevent teachers from speaking to children about the existence of same-sex couples or transgender people. But is the bill so vague that it could also prevent schools from acknowledging opposite-sex married couples too? The crew breaks down the intent, and the possible side effects, of Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” law. And, what does Disney’s response to the controversy tell us about where the wider culture is heading? Then, pastor and president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition (NALEC), Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salguero, joins Skye for a conversation about the growing influence of Latinos within evangelicalism. He says the diverse perspectives of Latino Christians offers the white church a “view from below,” and promises to bring renewal to the American church, but we shouldn’t romanticize the movement either. Plus, an example of Christian Nationalism in the wild, and goats go to church. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 7:52 - An example of Christian nationalism 19:49 - Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” bill Sponsor Interview with Gabriel Salguero National Latino Evangelical Coalition: https://nalec.org 42:14 - Interview start Other resources mentioned: |
Wed, 16 March 2022
The gang’s all here! Phil, Skye, Christian, & Kaitlyn are all in the studio for the first time ever to record this very special episode of the Holy Post. They retell the show’s origin story dating all the way to Phil’s talkshow dreams in the 1980s, how that accidentally gave rise to VeggieTales, why Skye got roped into the scheme, how Christian went from TV producer to podcast co-host, and how Kaitlyn is leveraging her new Holy Post notoriety. The crew then countdown the Top 10 stories of the last 10 years, and speculate about what the future holds for faith in America. Featuring original songs by Phil, voice messages from the audience, and a mythological Inuit knife, this is an episode for the ages! Holy Post Quiz Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgIOoK0BpkY Holy Post Patreon (now with book club!): patreon.com/holypost Episode 500 merch: holypost.com/shop Special thanks to: Waylon Klix, creator of brick characters included on episode 500 art card and in the video; Ellie Kleinsasser, creator of episode 500 merch design; and all our Patreon supporters who submitted voice messages! (For time’s sake, we couldn’t include all the voice messages we received, but we loved listening to every one that came in.) 0:00 - Intro song 28:26 - Voice messages: JT, Jere 52:20 - Voice messages: Michael, Catherine, Sarah, Ethan “Struggling with Evangelicalism” book (Dan Stringer) - https://amzn.to/3MTixL5 1:15:20 - “Crazy” song
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Wed, 9 March 2022
Some Southern Baptists say if Voddie Baucham becomes the next president of the SBC it will be a step toward racial reconciliation. When Phil disagreed in a tweet last weekend, it triggered a social media tsunami. He responds to the controversy. Then, the Holy Post crew discusses Jemar Tisby’s recent article about how the murder of Trayvon Martin ten years ago ended white evangelicalism’s efforts at racial reconciliation. But was the movement flawed from its beginning in the 1990s? Then, Skye has a wide-ranging conversation with author and conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks. They cover recent efforts to rescue evangelicalism from politics, the loss of optimism in the 21st century, our naïveté about democracy, how the world is reacting to the war in Ukraine, and why the church needs to make spiritual formation more challenging not less.
News Segment 0:00 - Intro 01:59 - Pat Robertson 4:48 - Phil’s Twitter tsunami 11:21 - The end of racial reconciliation? “Trayvon Martin’s Murder and the Death of the Evangelical Racial Reconciliation Movement” - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/trayvon-martins-murder-and-the-death?utm_source=url&s=r Sponsor 51:10 - Abide abide.co/holypost Interview with David Brooks 52:22 - Interview intro 54:06 - “Dissenters” article 58:39 - Social trust and technology 1:03:16 - “The Dark Century” article 1:05:22 - Lost view of humanity 1:13:09 - Reactions to the war in Ukraine 1:18:43 - Institutions and spiritual formation 1:26:02 - End “The Dissenters Trying to Save Evangelicalism From Itself” - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/opinion/evangelicalism-division-renewal.html “The Dark Century” - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/opinion/liberalism-democracy-russia-ukraine.html Bonus Patreon segment: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63559614/ David Brooks books mentioned: “The Social Animal” - https://amzn.to/3vYb8E2 “Bobos in Paradise” - https://amzn.to/3pO5AIB “The Road to Character” - https://amzn.to/378B7yh The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 2 March 2022
Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and the heroic resistance the Russian troops have encountered raises new questions about patriotism. When is love for our country godly, and when does it unknowingly lead to evil? Plus, a new study tries to define Christian nationalism, explain why Black and White Christian nationalists are so different, and advise how to prevent the heresy from spreading in churches. Then, David Kinnaman, President of the Barna Group, is back for another “Barna Brief.” His latest research finds over 70 percent of pastors are very concerned about the spread of Christian nationalism, but most aren’t sure what to do about it. And - why measuring church attendance says almost nothing about a church’s spiritual health or effectiveness at making disciples. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro Interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie- https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-495-the-false-gospel-of-democracy-with-robert-tracy-mckenzie 23:50 - Christian nationalism and race “Theology Cannot Save Us” article - https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/february-web-only/christian-theology-evangelicalism-cannot-save-us.html “Trayvon Martin’s Murder and the Death of the Evangelical Racial Reconciliation Movement” article - https://jemartisby.substack.com/p/trayvon-martins-murder-and-the-death?utm_source=url&s=r Sponsor Barna Brief with David Kinnaman: To learn more about Barna’s initiatives for supporting pastors, go to Barna.com/ResilientPastor |
Fri, 25 February 2022
During the Cold War, conservatives prided themselves for their opposition to the Soviet Union and totalitarianism and blasted those who wavered as “un-American.” In the current crisis in Ukraine, however, we have seen some conservatives defending Putin and Russia. What happened? David French tries to explain why some Republicans and evangelicals foolishly see Putin as a hero and defender of Christendom. Then he discusses his recent article about the rise of Christian Nationalism. Why is it so appealing among independent, Pentecostal churches, how is it spreading beyond those circles, and why are educated, elite Christian leaders reluctant to speak up about it? 0:00 - Intro Putin’s February 21 address - http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67828“ We’re All Ukrainians Now” - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/were-all-ukrainians-now?utm_source=url 31:13 - Rise of Christian nationalism“The Seeds of Political Violence Are Being Sown in Church” - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/the-seeds-of-political-violence-are?utm_source=url |
Wed, 23 February 2022
Why do black seminarians graduate with a lot more student debt than whites, and what does it mean for churches? A recent Gospel Coalition article by Alisa Childers argues that the word “deconstruction” is universally bad and should not be redeemed. Is she right or is it another example of Christians overreacting to a complicated issue? Then Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn take Childers’ online quiz to determine whether they are progressive Christians. Anglican priest and author Tish Harrison Warren talks to Skye about her controversial New York Times column saying it’s time to end online streaming worship services, and she argues that the pro-choice movement is hypocritical for not making the choice to keep a child easier. Plus, Phil shares his hard won wisdom about what not to post on Twitter. News Segment 0:00 Intro 14:42 - Black seminarians graduating with more debt Glenn Packiam interview: https://www.holypost.com/post/episode-496-the-embrace-of-tyrants-the-despair-of-pastors 26:43 - Deconstruction Interview with Tish Harrison Warren “The Systemic Realities Created by Legal Abortion” article - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/22/opinion/roe-legal-abortion.html “Why Churches Should Drop Their Online Services” article - 49:41 - Guest intro Other Links/Resources: Patreon Bonus Segments: The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 16 February 2022
A scary number of Americans now say violence may be necessary to fix the country. A new report looks at what combination of beliefs cause a person to endorse political violence, and why it’s more common on the right. Then, in response to last week’s interview, Phil unpacks how our modern belief in human goodness explains the rise in authoritarianism and populism. And, why are U.S. Christians supporting the “Freedom Convoy” in Canada? A recent study from Barna found more than one-third of pastors have seriously considered leaving ministry in the last year. What’s behind this crisis? Is the problem our culture, church members, how we’ve structured ministry, or is it pastors themselves? Skye talks to Glenn Packiam about his new book, “The Resilient Pastor,” and why it’s time to reexamine our assumptions about the church and its leadership. Plus, scientists create an artificial fish powered by love.
News Segment 0:00 - Intro/updates from the crew 13:08 - Recap: Last week’s interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie 18:08 - Study: Moral divisions and authoritarian leaders 36:36 - Beliefs leading to endorsement of political violence 50:53 - News segment wrap-up Sponsor Interview with Glenn Packiam“The Resilient Pastor” - https://amzn.to/34WGgbK 54:17 - Interview intro The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 9 February 2022
Should churches stop live-streaming their services and return to in-person worship? A recent editorial by Tish Harrison Warren has gotten a lot of negative reactions from chronically ill and disabled people who value online worship. What does the debate say about our theology of the church? ABC has suspended Whoopi Goldberg for her comments about race and the Holocaust. Is Judaism a race, a religion, an ethnicity, or something else?
Some Christians are praising Stephen Colbert for talking about how his faith informs his comedy on his talk show, while others are criticizing him for not explicitly sharing the gospel. Who’s right? And David Brooks’ recent NY Times article about the evangelical leaders trying to save their movement makes the Holy Post crew ask—When do we try to fix a ministry and when do we leave it? Then, Skye talks to history professor Robert Tracy McKenzie about his new book “We the Fallen People” about what the Founders really believed about democracy and the virtue of the American people. He explains how Americans lost the Founders’ belief in human depravity and exchanged it for a false gospel that affirms the inherent goodness of people and democracy, and how that explains the challenges we are now experiencing in our politics. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro 4:29 - Should churches stop live-streaming services? Tish Harrison Warren article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/opinion/church-online-services-covid.html Skye’s video, “Why You’re Sick of Church” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TqmTugUfT0 16:52 - Whoopi Goldberg’s comments on race and the Holocaust 26:01 - Stephen Colbert on faith and comedy 36:47 - Institutions - when to fix and when to leave David Brooks article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/opinion/evangelicalism-division-renewal.html Interview with Robert Tracy McKenzie: “We the Fallen People: The Founders and the Future of American Democracy” - https://amzn.to/3gvwP5J Patreon Bonus Interview - https://www.patreon.com/posts/62311740/ 56:04 - Interview Start 57:57 - “Democratic gospel” definition 1:02:02 - Founders’ beliefs about democracy and human nature 1:12:46 - “The Great Reversal” 1:20:21 - Jackson and unchecked democracy 1:23:22 - Christianity and partisanship 1:26:03 - Imperial presidency concerns 1:30:08 - End The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 2 February 2022
Jerry Falwell Jr. is doing damage control following his profile in Vanity Fair (discussed at length in last month’s French Friday episode). He’s even posted a statement of faith affirming his Christian beliefs. But does that make his behavior better or worse? And how does populism explain his criticism of “religious elites” while enjoying all the benefits of being a religious elite? Is Falwell the victim of nepotism, and should ministry be a family business? Then, a researcher argues that a toxic reaction to the Religious Right can explain a bunch of cultural, political, and religious trends—including the rise of the “nones” and unchecked conspiracy theories. And data suggests Democrats project their moral belief onto their candidates, while Republicans adopt the moral beliefs of their candidates. Then, Skye talks to Dan Kimball about his book and video series, How Not to Read the Bible, about why it’s critical for churches to welcome questions and doubts, and how the biblical ignorance of leaders is driving young people to find answers outside the church. News Segment January French Friday episode: https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-falwell-the-fruit-of-evangelical-leadership 25:39 - Article: “The backlash against rightwing evangelicals is reshaping American politics and faith” 44:10 - Study on political candidates and moral beliefs Sponsor Interview with Dan Kimball Resources mentioned: “How (Not) to Read the Bible: Making Sense of the Anti-women, Anti-science, Pro-violence, Pro-slavery and Other Crazy-Sounding Parts of Scripture” - https://amzn.to/3HmHviQ “How (Not) to Read the Bible” Study Guide plus Streaming Video - https://amzn.to/3ujSIwT The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Fri, 28 January 2022
He was the president of the largest Christian university and an influential political voice for millions of evangelicals. In a lengthy new Vanity Fair profile, however, Jerry Falwell Jr. now says he has contempt for “organized religion” and “religious elites.” David French and Skye Jethani discuss the shocking claims Falwell makes about Liberty University, how he lived a double life, and what his downfall says about American evangelicalism. Do Falwell and other disgraced leaders represent a bug or a feature of evangelicalism, and are ministries protecting bad or abusive leaders because they’re focused on the wrong fruit? Then, what’s the Electoral Count Act of 1887, and why is reforming it essential to protect American democracy?
0:00 - Start 4:17 - Falwell in context |
Wed, 26 January 2022
A new study finds evangelicals see most thing in society in categories of good and evil while nonbelievers see more nuance. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the implications. Bob Jones University has a fashion design department. What could possibly go wrong? Pretty much everything when a student discovered his androgynous Jesus coat was a fundamentalist fashion faux pas. Then, art historian Matthew Milliner talks about his new book “The Everlasting People: G.K. Chesterton and the First Nations.” Milliner explains the arrogance and injustice of progressivism, and the surprising story of Christianity among indigenous North Americans that rarely gets told. Plus, 100 monkeys on a truck and drunks on a plane. News Segment 0:00 - Intro 8:16 - News of the Butt 16:34 - Fundamentalist fashion faux pas 39:50 - Can society be split into good and evil? Sponsor Interview with Matthew Milliner 52:44 - Interview Start/Intro “One Church, Many Tribes” by Richard Twiss - https://amzn.to/3AuRksc “Mixed Blessings” edited by Tolly Bradford & Chelsea Horton - https://amzn.to/35oZgjq The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 19 January 2022
To commemorate MLK Day, Phil asks Esau McCaulley if we’re making progress on race or if we’ve gone backwards in the last few years. His answer might surprise you. Skye then interviews Old Testament professor, David T. Lamb, about the updated version of his book, “God Behaving Badly: Is the God of the Old Testament Angry, Sexist and Racist?” Lamb argues that if read correctly, we’d discover the Old Testament is surprisingly progressive rather than barbaric. Also this week, controversy erupts as after school Satan clubs sponsored by The Satanic Temple pop up in elementary schools with Good News clubs. And, a country music star withdraws his support from a Christian school that teaches racism is a reality. Plus, scientists discover sea slugs have an interesting party trick.
News Segment Interview with Esau McCaulley |
Wed, 12 January 2022
Last week, the country commemorated the one-year anniversary of the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn examine what’s changed, and what hasn’t, since the attack and what impact it’s had on both Christians and our culture. They also respond to Samuel Perry’s article about the way Christian Nationalism threatens democracy. Then, Skye talks to Australian theologian Michael Bird about the doctrine of biblical inerrancy. While Christians throughout the world affirm the Bible’s inerrancy, Bird says American Evangelicals uniquely see the doctrine as “the one ring to rule them all.” He documents many cases where inerrancy isn’t used to defend the Bible, but a particular interpretation of the Bible. Also this week—goldfish chauffeurs and the Japanese invent a finger-nibbling robot to “free all humanity.” News Segment 0:00 - Intro 9:13 - Finger-nibbling robots 12:48 - Anniversary of January 6th Capitol attacks Interview with Michael F. Bird “Saving Inerrancy from the Americans?” article - https://michaelfbird.substack.com/p/saving-inerrancy-from-the-americans “Seven Things I Wish People Knew About the Bible” book - https://amzn.to/33pYLV6 47:40 - Intro/Interview Start The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. |
Wed, 5 January 2022
Phil experienced a Twitter typhoon last week when he suggested “love your country” is not a Biblical command. The Holy Post crew unpacks the reactions and asks what separates godly and ungodly patriotism. Then, Skye talks to Christine Caine, founder of The A21 Campaign, about her experience of American evangelicalism as an Australian Pentecostal. With decades of experience in ministry around the world, and working against human trafficking in 14 countries, Caine says she was shocked by what she found in the American church, and advocates for more listening and cooperation with Christians in other traditions and cultures. Also this week, a Japanese professor invents a TV you can taste, and a town in the UK is terrorized by a bloodthirsty squirrel. News Segment: 0:00 - Intro and updates 8:36 - Lickable TV 15:16 - ERLC clarification
Interview with Christine Caine: |
Fri, 31 December 2021
In a recent editorial, Kevin DeYoung took aim at Christian commentators, including David French, for criticizing the social and political hypocrisies within white evangelicalism. DeYoung says these necessary corrections are better left to pastors rather than “professional writers, academics, and full-time commentators.” David and Skye respond to DeYoung’s editorial by explaining the good, and bad, reasons so few pastors are speaking prophetically in America today. Then, they turn their attention to the remarkable NY Times report about the U.S. military underreporting civilian casualties from drone attacks in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. French explains why legally the terrorists, not the U.S. military, carry responsibility for these deaths, which leads to a wider discussion about the ethics of war in general, the way drones may change Americans’ view of war in the future, and whether the invasion of Iraq was justifiable to begin with. 0:00 - Intro 2:40 - Kevin DeYoung editorial on Christian commentators https://wng.org/opinions/deyoung-on-white-evangelicalism-1639659990 29:54 - Drone attacks, civilian casualties, and ethics of war https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/12/18/us/airstrikes-pentagon-records-civilian-deaths.html |
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