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Phil’s file of Christian Nationalism stories has gotten full, so we’re covering a number of them this week. We explore the beliefs of early Christian Nationalists from the 1920s, how modern Christian Nationalism can’t shake its racist roots, and why it’s gaining popularity with some followers of Reformed theology. Skye explains what Christian Nationalism shares in common with the Prosperity Gospel, and Kaitlyn dismantles Christian Nationalists who say their views are rooted in God’s design in nature. Then, we share one of our most popular Holy Post bonus features with everyone where Christian Taylor asks Skye about what the Bible really says, and does not say, about hell. Plus, another Christian college professor got Tisby’d.

 

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0:00 - Intro

 

1:31 - Show Starts

 

4:14 - Theme Song

 

4:36 - Julie Moore fired by Taylor University

 

17:59 - Christian Nationalism’s Racist Roots

 

27:16 - New Review of Stephen Wolfe’s book on Christian Nationalism

 

36:20 - A review of Mere Christiandom

 

45:11 - Christian Nationalism Fascism

 

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58:54 - Christian Asks Intro

 

59:53 - What is Hell?

 

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1:17:08  - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:

 

Taylor professor Julie Moore cited Jemar Tisby on her syllabus. Then she lost her job.

https://religionnews.com/2023/05/03/taylor-english-professor-julie-moore-cited-jemar-tisby-on-her-syllabus-then-she-lost-her-job/

 

Old-school Christian nationalism’s avatar of racism, antisemitism and conspiracies

https://religionnews.com/2023/03/07/for-gerald-l-k-smith-old-school-christian-nationalism-meant-racism-antisemitism-and-conspiracies/

 

Beware the 'Christian Prince'

https://reason.com/2023/05/13/beware-the-christian-prince/

 

A Review of Mere Christendom by Doug Wilson

https://g3min.org/a-review-of-mere-christendom-by-doug-wilson/

 

Christian Nationalism Talks Religion, But Walks Fascism

https://religioninpublic.blog/2020/02/05/christian-nationalism-talks-religion-but-walks-fascism/



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David French has just returned from Ukraine where he saw the devastating impact of the Russian invasion. He talks to Skye about the resilience of the Ukrainian people, the need for more American support, and how a Trump victory in 2024 is part of Putin’s war plan. Then, the Supreme Court appears likely to rule against colleges and universities that consider race in the admission process. What are the arguments for and against Affirmative Action, and how will the court’s decision reverberate beyond higher education?



0:00 - Theme Song

 

0:17 - Why there is not more U.S. support of Ukraine

 

20:35 - David’s experience in Kyiv

 

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36:22 - Harvard Affirmative Action Case in the Supreme Court

 

45:45 - Previous Affirmative Action cases

 

58:49 - End Credits

 

Links mentioned in interview

 

Why Ukraine Needs Those F-16s

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/opinion/21french-ukraine-f16-fighters.html

 

I Just Arrived in Kyiv. The Ukrainian Valor Is Breathtaking.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/18/opinion/ukraine-kyiv-missile-patriot.html

 

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 Influential pastor, author, and apologist, Tim Keller, passed away last week. We reflect on Keller’s ministry and wonder who is filling the shoes of the Christian giants we’ve lost. A new book about poverty says that the U.S. spends more on welfare than any other country except France, but the majority goes to help the wealthy and middle-class rather than the poor. Why aren’t we doing more to end poverty, and is our view of the Bible to blame? Then, it’s been 25 years since Rich Mullins died. Skye talks to Mullins’ friend James Bryan Smith about the songwriter’s inspiring life and legacy. Plus, Matthew Soerens shares some good news from the Southern border.

 

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0:49 - Intro

 

3:08 - Show Starts

 

3:51 - Theme Song

 

4:12 - Remembering Tim Keller 

 

25:51 - News of the Good

 

36:01- American Poverty

 

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1:05:17 - Interview Intro - James Bryan Smith

 

1:07:09 - How Rich and Bryan became friends

 

1:13:07 - Rich’s uniqueness and authenticity

 

1:25:53 - Rich’s reliance on God 

 

1:35:20  - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:

 

Tim Keller Practiced the Grace He Preached

https://christianitytoday.com/ct/2023/may-web-only/tim-keller-death-pastor-theologian-church-life-legacy-grace.html

 

Title 42 has ended. Here’s what it did, and how US immigration policy is changing

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How America Manufactures Poverty

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/03/20/matthew-desmond-poverty-by-america-book-review



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Rich Mullins (25th Anniversary Edition): An Arrow Pointing to Heaven by James Bryan Smith

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Ethicist, David Gushee, says we are seeing the emergence of a new kind of loveless Christianity. But those who practice it say their anger, culture warring, and pursuit of power are actually how they’re loving their neighbors. Then, Skye talks to actor Rainn Wilson, best known as Dwight Schrute from “The Office,” about religious pluralism, spiritual narcissism, why Hollywood misrepresents Christians, and how he became a follower of the Baha’i faith. Wilson’s new book is “Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution.” Also this week—A.I. has rewritten Genesis to be vegan-friendly, and does God really hate yoga pants?

 

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0.00 - Intro

 

2:33 - Theme Song

 

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4:03 - A Vegan Bible

 

15:23 - Yoga Pants & Christian Modesty

 

25:37 - Christianity without Love





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43:14 - Interview Intro 

 

48:26 - Rainn’s journey to becoming Baha’i

 

53:30 - Why people are shifting away from religion

 

1:02:43 - Avoiding “self-help” spirituality 

 

1:08:35 - How can people of different faiths work together

 

1:22:55  - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:

 

PETA Rewrites the Bible With ChatGPT: ‘A Loving God Would Never Endorse Exploitation’ 

https://vegnews.com/vegan-health-wellness/activism/peta-bible-chatgpt-god-vegan

 

‘Women’s leggings are too revealing’: Men of the Christian right deem yoga pants too scandalous to wear outside

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/yoga-pants-twitter-debate-womens-clothing-mom-misogyny/

 

Christianity without love

https://baptistnews.com/article/christianity-without-love/

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Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution by Rainn Wilson

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The Divine Commodity: Discovering a Faith Beyond Consumer Christianity by Skye Jethani

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How did a theological system that rejected Christian participation in politics eventually give birth to the Religious Right? Phil talks to historian Daniel Hummel about the spread of rapture theology in the 20th century, why it spawned so many conspiracies, the legacy of the Left Behind books, and why rapture theology remains so popular despite being rejected by nearly every evangelical seminary. Also this week, why did controversial author, Joshua Butler, resign from his church? The embrace of Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump by the Religious Right is proof that the movement is now entirely post-Christian. And reflections on the coronation of King Charles III.



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0.50 - Intro

 

 3:15 - Theme Song

 

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4:44 - Coronation of King Charles III

 

14:24 - News of the Good

 

17:42 - Resignation of Josh Butler

 

22:26 - The Post Christian Right

 

31:29 - The End of the Values Voter Wing of the GOP

 

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51:25 - Interview Intro

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54:03 - The Scofield Bible and Fundamentalism Christianity

 

1:04:19 - Late Great Planet Earth

 

1:11:45 - Tim LaHaye and the Left Behind Series

 

1:20:39 - The Academic Decline of Premillennialism Dispensationalism 

 

1:30:59  - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:

 

Josh Butler Resigns as Pastor Following TGC Article Backlash

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/may/joshua-butler-resign-tgc-beautiful-union-redemption-tempe-c.html

 

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Tucker Carlson’s Dark and Malign Influence Over the Christian Right

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/07/opinion/tucker-carlson-christian-right.html



Trump killed the ‘values voter’ wing of the GOP. It isn’t coming back in 2024

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/21/trump-values-voter-wing-gop-00093175



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The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel Hummel

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Many Christians in America simply assume that Jesus could return at any moment, that believers will be raptured in the twinkling of an eye, that the state of Israel has a special role in the End Times, and that the church should just save souls and stay out of politics. In Part 1 of an interview about this new book, historian Daniel G. Hummel explains to Phil how this rapture theology isn’t rooted in church history, but was invented by a British layman less than 200 years ago. And why it was embraced by American pastors during the Civil War who wanted to avoid talking about slavery, race, and reconstruction. Also this week—paganism is on the rise. Who is really killing public schools? And women will win the battle of the sexes in 4.6 million years.



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Defined Terms to Know for This Week’s Interview

 

Millennium - The thousand year reign of Christ described in Revelation 20:1-8. There are basically three understandings of this:

  • Premillennialism - (Think Left Behind book series) Christians will be raptured, leaving behind everyone else. There will be a tribulation period with the rise of the Antichrist, mark of the beast, war, famine, earthquakes, etc. before Christ eventually comes and rules on earth for 1,000 years during which peace will reign. After one final rebellion, God will crush evil forever, offer a final judgment, and establish heaven and hell for eternity.

 

  • Postmillennialism - The millennium will come from the spiritual and moral influence of the Church through preaching and teaching. Conversions will increase and evil will diminish. In other words, Christians will make the world a better and better place and after that, Christ will come back, the dead will be resurrected, and there will be a final judgment

 

  • Amillennialism - The 1000 year period mentioned in Revelation does not refer to a specific period of time, but to the heavenly reign of Christ. Rev. 20 means the return of Christ will occur at the end of history. Sees Revelation as more symbolic than literal. 

 

Eschatology - The study of the end times - how history will end and Christ will come back to establish his eternal kingdom

 

Ecclesiology - the study of the church - its mission and structure as well as its place in God’s overall plan for the world



0:00 -  Intro

 

3:11 - Theme Song

 

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4:41 - The end of men?

 

13:48 - Dawn of the new pagans

 

32:52 - Public vs Private vs Homeschool Debate

 

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55:46 - Interview Intro

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1:03:50 - Who is John Darby?

 

1:14:21- Dispensationalism advanced by the Civil War and Dwight Moody

 

1:35:21  - End Credits



Links mentioned in news segment:

 

Scientists divided over what will happen to men as Y chromosome is disappearing

https://www.unilad.com/news/is-the-y-chromosome-disappearing-077677-20230429

 

Dawn of the new pagans: ‘Everybody’s welcome – as long as you keep your clothes on!’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/27/dawn-of-the-new-pagans-everybodys-welcome-as-long-as-you-keep-your-clothes-on

 

How school choice drives America’s people of faith apart

https://religionnews.com/2023/04/19/how-school-choice-drives-americas-people-of-faith-apart/



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The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation by Daniel Hummel

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